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    Just remember "Not everyone with Lyme disease gets the rash."

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    Thank you for sharing

    Has anyone tried those ultrasonic tick repellers

    I am minded to get a couple of the pet versions as they seem to be the cheapest option on eBay and can't see much difference between that and the one branded for humans

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    Quote Originally Posted by twopigs View Post
    Just remember "Not everyone with Lyme disease gets the rash."

    Just a few facts to keep things in perspective. There are an estimated 1000-3000 cases annually in the UK. Around 1000 per year are confirmed by a positive blood test. 2/3 of cases occur in Southern England.
    50-70% of patients remember getting bitten, and 60-90% develop a rash around the bite.
    Median time for the appearance of a rash after exposure is 21 days (range 3-32 days)
    Other symptoms (fever, headache, fatigue, neck stiffness, joint and muscle pains, enlarged lymph glands) can occur and typically last up to 3-4 weeks. These are very non-specific, with many much more common causes than Lyme disease, so if you think you are at risk, make sure to tell your GP why and when you may have been exposed.
    Last edited by Gordon G; 12th-February-2019 at 09:24 AM.

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    I’ve not seen the ultrasonic repellents for ticks. Ive seen them for midgies and not had a lot of luck with them. I’ve just got some Midge and Tick repellent from Pyramid I am about to test. It’s the first repellent I’ve seen that lists ticks as well as midgies so that could be useful. I’ve asked them about spraying it on clothes and they say it should work as a deterrent but they don’t recommend it as it could stain. I’m not greatly concerned about the clothes I wear while camping getting discoloured. Certainly not as much as I am concerned about getting Lymes.
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    Not convinced about ultrasonic repellents for a couple of reasons.
    My dad has a load of ultrasonic rodent repellents and 2 things are noticable about them, firstly they don't deter rodents in the long term if at all, and secondly they are not entirely ultrasonic because I can sometimes hear them (and my hearing is terrible!). The idea is that the ultrsound is annoying to the rodents and they won't move in as a result, my dad's rodents seem to be able to put up with it. (he still has to empty the mouse traps frequently).

    Also consider ultrasound. As a qualified ultrasonic operator I should know the range of frequencies normally audbile to humans, but the truth is I revised for the test and immediately forgot it again. Lots of animals hear higher frequencies than humans do, which anyone who has used a dog whistle will appreciate. So ultrasonic repellent works on the basis of transmitting white noise at a frequency that the intended repellee will find intolerable so they stay away, but how many other species are sensitive to the same frequencies? Humans aren't, that's how we define ultrasound (based on the range of human hearing) but what kind of noise pollution are these devices causing for other wildlife if you carry them whilst out and about in the countryside? What else are you going to disturb whilst using an ultrasonic repellent? It doesn't seem very nature friendly - not that chemical repellents are exactly friendly either, but you can probably liken the approaches to going about smelling a bit bad, vs going about blaring out music at high volume.

    How hard can it be?

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    Thanks for sharing
    trying to keep up!

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    There are an estimated 1000-3000 cases annually in the UK
    If the claims in the [YouTube] John Caldwell interview on Lyme Disease are correct (and I have no evidence that that are or are not) that might better as "There are an estimated 1000-3000 cases diagnosed annually in the UK" - he suggests undiagnosed Lyme (possibly infected many years previously) may be responsible for a lot other disease. I'm wondering if a friend's ME in the 1980s might have been Lyme.

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