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    Picked up a budget ARC welder at Aldi, for fifty quid. Have had great fun learning to weld and have made 2 x rocket stoves from redundant gas bottles. Whilst I fully intend to continue to canoe, I would like to talk away with other metal work hobbyists. Is there an equivalent website that is as good as SOTP? I can't seem to find one, but wondered if anyone else has?

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    Brill, I hope you have fun with your new hobby. I too have a relatively cheap arc welder, mine came from Machine Mart and I made the barrier gate to our house, it's still working and intact after many years use although I make no claims to having any welding ability whatsoever
    If you have, or can get, a photosensitive auto-darkening welders face/eye shield they can help a lot.
    I'll be following your thread with interest just in case anyone knows of a gem of a website.
    It won't be as good as SotP though
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    [IMG]ROCKET 2 by canalcruiser, on Flickr[/IMG][IMG]ROCKET 2 FLUE AND BRACKET by canalcruiser, on Flickr[/IMG]


    A pic or two of my efforts in welding so far

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    Hi Uncle A - I think you should do a lot more practice welds.

    I too am a budding welding hobbyist - 50 quid is a great deal for the welder.

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    Why?

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    They look a bit messy and lacking in penetration.
    Should look like little caterpillars or overlapping triangles
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    Kmac,

    Bit unfair to compare someone's first attempts with a cheap arc welder with a pretty tig weld, eh ?

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    I didn't, just said he needed more practice :-)

    Those are pictures to aspire to - my welds look nothing like that

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    A pretty MIG weld

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmac View Post
    A pretty MIG weld
    Whatever. I am achieving what I want to. Pretty is one thing...functional is another.

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    My concern is the functional. Your welds look like surface welds with little penetration
    Of course the only way to check for sure is to do some practice welds and dissect the joint.
    For the uses you are making of itm it may not matter too much but it is something to consider.

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    I can see you having great fun mixing hobbies, esp if you happen to have a Gruman :-).

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    Unfortunately you can't see the depth from the pictures. The welds run deep.

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    A tig or mig is next on my shopping list.

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    Probably the best you can do with a cheap stick welder

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    MIG seems most universal in terms of applications but then you have to faff about with gas....

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    Faffing with electric when you have a pacemaker is a pain as well.

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    Hi, Try this site www.mig-welding.co.uk it's a good site and they will help, all I will say is practice it will come, clean spatter off, I know it's not finished but if you don't that will be the first it will start to rust after painting it.
    The site covers all types of welding so don't be put off by the name of site, worth buying a auto helmet but not tooo cheap I've read think mine was under 60 some years ago. Get some scrap steel 3mm or so and get some runs down on that, and get making stuff and don't burn your shed down

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    I have made a stove, now on the second one.
    I grind the spatter off. I have an auto helmet, 30 squid at screwfix. Works well. Sourcing steel is an issue, but I have a cheap if not free scrap source
    The first stove is properly installed in a fireproof hearth in the man cave and gets really hot and no fire risk.
    But I now need a good source of free firewood, and I think I have found one!!

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    Free firewood ... brill
    This was about my first arc welding project ... still working ~10yrs later ... I might need to give it a clean and a re-paint though


    On checking some of the welds look pretty good ... it's all still holding together though


    All the best with your new hobby
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    Finished article ready for installation

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    Nice. Should keep you toasty

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    This is where it's going ....now setting about serious shed re-model

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    Obviously you are re-purposing stuff rather than trying to build structures so the criticism of your welds is not really relevant; but
    - your welds appear to have some voids in them
    - also there are undercuts (where the edges bulge instead of tapering down)
    The undercuts may indicate shallow penetration, or not, but more importantly both of these features will make the welds more prone to corrosion in the immediate area. If it was a highly loaded application this would lead to premature failure, but I don't see it being an issue at all on a stove door - the heat cycles in use are going to accelerate corrosion anyway and since you have built it for next to nothing I suspect you won't care if it only lasts a couple of years?
    I only mention it because if you later start to think about mending a trailer, or building a gate, you will want to buy some extra steel and practise some more first to try to avoid those kind of issues.

    That last photo is looking OK apart from the spatter - good progress!

    As for choice of welder, arc (stick) is probably your best choice for building stoves from gas bottles. MIG only really works up to about 2mm thickness (you can get specialised MIG equipment to go thicker but hobby sets will max out at about 2mm), stick is much better for thicker materials but you will tend to blow holes in thin stuff like car body panels with it. TIG is more versatile but requires more coordination.
    Everyone has different aptitude, I am rubbish at striking an arc with a stick welder, my welds would probably be worse than yours! On the other hand I am fine with a MIG welder where I know a lot of people struggle to coordinate with the automatic wire feed. I'm not good enough that I would employ me as a welder, but I can do car repairs good enough for MOT and a bit of light fabrication as needed.

    Have fun and get some practice in. If you need steel, look on ebay, there are loads of places that sell offcuts reasonably cheaply (look around the postage costs vary considerably). When possible try to practise on offcuts of the same stuff you are going to weld so you can get your power settings optimised before you start the real weld.

    How hard can it be?

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    not welding but my new hobby

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyGesserit View Post


    not welding but my new hobby
    Not sure what exactly your new hobby is Benny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Albert View Post
    Not sure what exactly your new hobby is Benny?
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    Benny if you were intending to show a pic it doesn't show. There were no other clues to your new hobby in your original post - it was so mysterious.

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    The path to the non-visible image in Benny's initial post is

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    Sorry chaps my bad

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    They're pretty cool BennyG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_B View Post
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    Sorry guys for wasting your time - you think I would know better working in IT

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    It was visible for a bit, for me anyway!
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    has it disappeared again ?

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    Did you carve the router too?

    (that's router not router, unless you are in america where they are both pronounced the same)

    How hard can it be?

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    It's a mouse mat

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