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    Default Saturday 8th Dec 2018 - Thames / St Patricks's Stream / Loddon / Hennerton backwater

    This first time I paddled this was with Mal during the winter months a couple of years back, i was just blown over by the tranquility of the place - no wind, mist, calm waters and beautiful gardens. This is a lovely figure of eight paddle on the River Thames / St Patrick’s Stream / River Loddon / Hennerton Backwater. Its an all day paddle with a few options to make it shorter depending how you feel/time constraints.

    Date Time: 9.30 a.m for 10.00 a.m on the water! Should be back before by 4 p.m. There is an option to do half of the route if you don’t fancy doing the whole day.
    Meeting at Mill Lane, Shiplake, Henley-on-Thames
    Nearest postcode: RG9 3ND
    Paddlepoints: http://www.paddlepoints.net/PaddlePoints.php?pp=129
    Less than an hours drive from Woking and 30 mins from Windsor.

    Park your car on Mill Lane – there should be plenty of free parking. The put in is about 100m walk from the road. You have to take your boat over a gate which can be tricky on your own but light work with many hands.
    Food: There is a nice pub (https://www.stgeorgeanddragon.co.uk) where we can eat or bring your own lunch. Will decide what most people want.
    Last edited by lowlander; 5th-December-2018 at 11:28 AM.

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    Will be there, as you're guaranteeing no wind and calm waters

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    Bloody Hell !! I'm not sure I can go paddling twice in the same week !!!!!!!

    but........only an hour from me so very interested. Pencil me in

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    What's the terrain(sic) ?

    Will I want "built like a tank" plastic boat or "crafted from the finest unicorn fore-skins" Pal ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigyellowtractor View Post
    What's the terrain(sic) ?

    Will I want "built like a tank" plastic boat or "crafted from the finest unicorn fore-skins" Pal ???
    Colin,

    I thought you had paddled this before.... the most challenging bit is getting your boat over gate to the put in Your Pal will be safe!

    Maj

    Yes

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    Last edited by silverbeard; 1st-December-2018 at 08:19 PM.

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    Sounds like a fun day out and another excuse to bake


    Adrian
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    Maj
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    Andy & Angie

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    sooner or later I will be able to get to one of the paddles.
    This time I'll be in South Wales practicing how not to drown on white water.

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    I'm interested in coming along, not too far to travel

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    I am also interested in coming but not sure on suitability of my wooden boat

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    I think any guarantee of no wind is slightly exaggerated looking at the forecasts... I will let Mal and Maj make the final call on this, with their greater local knowledge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal Grey View Post
    Will be there, as you're guaranteeing no wind and calm waters

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianO View Post
    I think any guarantee of no wind is slightly exaggerated looking at the forecasts... I will let Mal and Maj make the final call on this, with their greater local knowledge.
    Adrian, just messaged Mal , will keep an eye on the weather but so much can change within a few days, we will be sensible


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    Big J - tentative




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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Lutley View Post
    sooner or later I will be able to get to one of the paddles.
    This time I'll be in South Wales practicing how not to drown on white water.
    That's on my do to list next year fingers crossed. Enjoy!

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    I am planning to come. See you Saturday.

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    I am ignoring the wind until the weather forecast improves...


    Quote Originally Posted by Bigj View Post
    I am planning to come. See you Saturday.
    Be good to have you along.


    Quote Originally Posted by Red Eye View Post
    I am also interested in coming but not sure on suitability of my wooden boat
    Its just like Triggs loop Graham, maybe a little faster flow.

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    IF Plan C fails, like A&B, I might be there. (On time or not at all)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impcanoe View Post
    IF Plan C fails, like A&B, I might be there. (On time or not at all)
    it would be good to see you Peter, fingers crossed

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    Peter - impcanoe

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    Still planning my time but i sould be able to make it

    Fingers crossed ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickout View Post
    Still planning my time but i sould be able to make it

    Fingers crossed ...

    Nick
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    Peter - impcanoe

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverbeard View Post
    That's on my do to list next year fingers crossed. Enjoy!
    The course has been cancelled due to a group dropping out, so now not enough people to go ahead.

    Booked one for March with Chris Brain through OCA.

    I will join you if ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Lutley View Post
    The course has been cancelled due to a group dropping out, so now not enough people to go ahead.

    Booked one for March with Chris Brain through OCA.

    I will join you if ok?
    Yay Colin, the more the merrier!

    Yes

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    Colin -
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    Plan C
    Peter - impcanoe

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    If the weather's OK I'll be there.

    Garth

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    I might be there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirus View Post
    I might be there
    yay! i will add you to the list

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    Pete - Sirus (tentative)

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    Peter - impcanoe

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    How many canoes before it becomes officially a flotilla/fleet/armada?

    If parking becomes tight, it will be a "drop canoe off and park up the hill" type job, only another couple of minutes walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal Grey View Post
    How many canoes before it becomes officially a flotilla/fleet/armada?

    If parking becomes tight, it will be a "drop canoe off and park up the hill" type job, only another couple of minutes walk.
    Was also thinking of tagging along....if there is space on the water

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    Be great to see you again Kenan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal Grey View Post
    How many canoes before it becomes officially a flotilla/fleet/armada?

    If parking becomes tight, it will be a "drop canoe off and park up the hill" type job, only another couple of minutes walk.
    It must be a flotilla by now Mal. Where is the extra parking up the hill? Is it on memorial Avenue or is it still on Mill Lane?


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    Maj
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    Red Eye
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    Pete - Sirus (tentative)
    Kenan

    Plan C
    Peter - impcanoe

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    Just been vetoed by the rest of the family - apparently I have to stay to get the Xmas tree and help decorate it. Family tradition.

    See you all at the next one - esp AdrianO

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    Pete - Sirus (tentative)



    Plan C
    Peter - impcanoe

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    Great shame, but totally acceptable excuse! Catch you another time, enjoy your shopping and ensuing decoration!
    Quote Originally Posted by kmac View Post
    Just been vetoed by the rest of the family - apparently I have to stay to get the Xmas tree and help decorate it. Family tradition.

    See you all at the next one - esp AdrianO

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    Mal
    Andy & Angie
    Red Eye
    Big J
    Nick
    Colin -
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    Pete - Sirus (tentative)



    Plan C
    Peter - impcanoe

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    Really looking forward to meeting some new paddling friends.
    Hope it's not raining like it is now !
    See you in the morning
    Big J

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    Will be good to meet you BigJ.


    OK, brief update.


    If parking is tight on Mill Lane at the lower end near the put in, we will move some cars up the hill past Mill Rd, though its still limited as only a short bit is wider. (Please note it is Mill Lane, Shiplake NOT Mill Lane Henley!


    It is going to be windy, possibly very, but hopefully not too wet. There are likely to be some lengthy periods into strong gusty headwinds, so think about something to trim the bows of solo canoes. I can't hide from the fact it might be really tough going, but what the heck! We also have the option of cutting it short after the first half.


    Food likely to be riverside near the St George, rather than at it, as we think it may be rammed at this seasonal time of year, and slow. This doesn't mean we won't possibly stop for a pint, of course!

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    All sounds good to me!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal Grey View Post
    Will be good to meet you BigJ.


    OK, brief update.


    If parking is tight on Mill Lane at the lower end near the put in, we will move some cars up the hill past Mill Rd, though its still limited as only a short bit is wider. (Please note it is Mill Lane, Shiplake NOT Mill Lane Henley!


    It is going to be windy, possibly very, but hopefully not too wet. There are likely to be some lengthy periods into strong gusty headwinds, so think about something to trim the bows of solo canoes. I can't hide from the fact it might be really tough going, but what the heck! We also have the option of cutting it short after the first half.


    Food likely to be riverside near the St George, rather than at it, as we think it may be rammed at this seasonal time of year, and slow. This doesn't mean we won't possibly stop for a pint, of course!

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    Sounds good.

    I am just checking in to see it is still going ahead.
    Some paddles have been cancelled for tomorrow.
    I'll load my canoe now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Lutley View Post
    Sounds good.

    I am just checking in to see it is still going ahead.
    Some paddles have been cancelled for tomorrow.
    I'll load my canoe now.
    I have just loaded up too. looking forward to meeting you tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal Grey View Post
    It is going to be windy, possibly very, but hopefully not too wet. There are likely to be some lengthy periods into strong gusty headwinds, so think about something to trim the bows of solo canoes. I can't hide from the fact it might be really tough going
    But Maj promised !!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by silverbeard View Post
    no wind, mist, calm waters

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigyellowtractor View Post
    But Maj promised !!!!!
    That's what jinxed it...

    He's still learnin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal Grey View Post
    That's what jinxed it...

    He's still learnin'
    You boys!!!

    Debating what to have for lunch tomorrow, it will be too windy for the stove perhaps but would be nice to have a cuppa and some cake...

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverbeard View Post
    Debating what to have for lunch tomorrow, it will be too windy for the stove perhaps but would be nice to have a cuppa and some cake...
    One way or another there will definitely be tea and cake

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    Flow increasing through the day today, though not to any dangerous extent, and seems to have plateaued since lunchtime (50 ish m3/sec at Maidenhead. 80 being my rough limit for going upstream against!). With no further significant rain due, I expect it to stay at a similar rate, which should be doable.

    However it will be into the wind AND the current for the first hour, so bring your best paddlin' muscles. Combined tactics can always be employed! (tandem/towing etc)

    Yellow "caution" boards now on downstream of Henley, but not above at present.

    I'll glance at the levels again first thing in the morning, just in case anything unexpectedly drastic happens!

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    Level has stayed constant overnight, so though it maybe hardwork, it should be OK.

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    Duplicate thanks to pre-coffee posting too early in the morning...

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    Was great to meet you all today.
    Liz and I had a great time.
    Looking forward to doing it again soon

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigj View Post
    Was great to meet you all today.
    Liz and I had a great time.
    Looking forward to doing it again soon

    John
    Good to meet you both, see you on the rivers again soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal Grey View Post
    Level has stayed constant overnight, so though it maybe hardwork, it should be OK.
    that's good because I'd left home half an hour earlier.

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    Great to meet everyone today.

    Paddle together again soon.

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    An excellent plan D, good fun, although the attempt to surf on the mini wave at the top means I missed the main event. From my point of view, an excellent decision not to do the second half.

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    Good day out and the weather held, well until the very end.
    Catch you all soon.

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    That was a proper mix of a day; lovely backwater with enough of a flow to make it interesting/tricky. Mixed with some battling against current and wind. Which was not a lot of fun.

    ( Andy, hope you and Jess have warmed up and today's little splash doesn't put her off )

    Good to be out with the usual suspects and to meet some new faces.

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    Many thanks to Maj and Mal for another superb trip on fresh water. A little blustery and challenging in places, but that was expected!

    Great to see some new faces and reacquaint some familiar ones too.

    "What Happens Next" will be expanded on and posted once the video has been processed:


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    Another good day, as always, rivers are slightly different every time you do them. A good mix of tree dodging, a bit of flow, and some hard work in the wind.

    My clothes are now dry. I didn't swim, and it only rained after we finished, so who did?

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    So this is the picture of Mal who takes a lot of photos of us -


    (I hope this works this time)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianO View Post
    Many thanks to Maj and Mal for another superb trip on fresh water. A little blustery and challenging in places, but that was expected!

    Great to see some new faces and reacquaint some familiar ones too.

    "What Happens Next" will be expanded on and posted once the video has been processed:

    I think you got swooped on by a raptor! there will quite a few about on this paddle.

    Thanks to everyone who came and Mal for behind the scenes advice. Enjoyed that although the last bit was particularly tough going.

    The second half of the loop we seemed to have done in record time and it was remarkably still.

    Hope Jessie and Andy got home safely and managed to warm up with a mug of hot soup or something.

    Colin, thanks for my gifts all four of them. I will be putting those to good use i assure you!

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    Thanks to Maj for organising a fun day out and Mal's knowledge of the area , we survived our little wild swim with no lasting damage to anything other than my phone and Jess's tights neither of which survived their little excursion.

    A big thanks to all that helped it was a little bit of excitement in an otherwise peaceful day's paddling, it hasn't put us off just made rethink my kit list, to be fair I've only been paddling since May so every outing is a learning trip.

    Looking forward to more trips in the coming months.
    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALG View Post
    we survived our little wild swim with no lasting damage to anything other than my phone and Jess's tights neither of which survived their little excursion.

    It hasn't put us off just made rethink my kit list
    Andy,

    Glad you are both all OK. I bet the slog against the wind on the way back wasn't a lot of fun.

    I always carry a full set of dry clothes and a towel in a dry-bag. If you don't need to use your phone on the water then just double-bag it. Cases are available that allow almost full use; there is a thread somewhere where I asked for recommendations.

    I have used Exped dry bags https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EXPED-100...DAE:rk:54:pf:0 for trail-riding and travel for many years. They are possibly not as tough as some but they are light and flexible, airtight when in good condition and the bright coloured ones allow you to write their contents on with a sharpie.

    See you on the next splash, sorry paddle.

    Col

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    Glad to hear you are both okay, with only material losses. Winter paddling can always throw up additional challenges, be that air temp, water temp, wind or flow levels. Plan for every eventuality and you'll have a boat full of kit every time you paddle, but you will always be warm, dry and have hot food and drink.

    We all try not to swim, but I can guarantee I will at some point!

    The other dry bags worth looking at are from Highlander, good thick material and so far proving totally waterproof.

    Look forward to seeing you both on the water again soon!

    Quote Originally Posted by ALG View Post
    Thanks to Maj for organising a fun day out and Mal's knowledge of the area , we survived our little wild swim with no lasting damage to anything other than my phone and Jess's tights neither of which survived their little excursion.

    A big thanks to all that helped it was a little bit of excitement in an otherwise peaceful day's paddling, it hasn't put us off just made rethink my kit list, to be fair I've only been paddling since May so every outing is a learning trip.

    Looking forward to more trips in the coming months.
    Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALG View Post
    Thanks to Maj for organising a fun day out and Mal's knowledge of the area , we survived our little wild swim with no lasting damage to anything other than my phone and Jess's tights neither of which survived their little excursion.

    A big thanks to all that helped it was a little bit of excitement in an otherwise peaceful day's paddling, it hasn't put us off just made rethink my kit list, to be fair I've only been paddling since May so every outing is a learning trip.

    Looking forward to more trips in the coming months.
    Andy
    Andy,

    try drying the phone in Rice, if it does not work, bring it with you next time and i will try and revive it for you. Is it insured?

    Maj

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