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    Default BC Access & Environment Consultation in Castleford (Yorkshire)



    Open invitation - please come an have your say!

    Quote Originally Posted by British Canoeing - Yorkshire & Humberside
    British Canoeing is consulting on plans for a new Access & Environment campaign... and on 31st January Yorkshire's enthusiasts are invited to have a say and put questions directly to senior staff and Board members...

    The Regional Development Team in Yorkshire & Humberside has arranged for the first British Canoeing roadshow on Access & Environment to be hosted at The New Wheatsheaf in Castleford from 7pm on Wednesday 31st January, 2018.

    Refreshments will be available from 6.30pm - and delegates arriving early will be eligible for a 10% discount on a meal at The Wheatsheaf.
    Event link: https://www.britishcanoeing.org.uk/r...s-environment/

    British Canoeing news story: https://www.britishcanoeing.org.uk/n...bers-roadshow/

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    Well this should spice up the forthcoming Access & Environment Consultations 🤣

    We have a motion to the AGM requiring the Board of British Canoeing to "make an unequivocal commitment to campaign for legislation to secure open access for all recreational users of water and waterside" - and there's more!


    Quote Originally Posted by Pam Bell View Post
    Many of us are frustrated at the lack of progress on access, or maybe have been vocal in our criticism of the NGB’s from failing to grasp the nettle in the past; now, we have a real chance to change things! BC have shown that they are committing to a change in direction. As members we can put some momentum and confidence into this change of direction.
    To help demonstrate support, a motion has been put forward to the BC AGM. If you support the aim, register your support where it counts – at the AGM! If you can’t get there in person, consider giving your proxy vote to either Ivan or me. Voting forms will be published by BC in due course, with the agenda for the AGM.

    Motion to British Canoeing AGM 24 March 2018
    Ivan Lawler
    Pam Bell

    We submit the following item for discussion at the annual general meeting of British Canoeing on 24 March 2018.

    After many years of believing that our only option was to try to negotiate access permission, we have moved to a situation where we consider a right of navigation to exist on all rivers. We now know that, while landowners may be entitled to control access to the water across their land, and to charge for this, they do not control navigation and are not entitled to charge for ‘linear access’ or passage along the water on the basis of ownership of the land.

    The access effort has evolved as our understanding of the legal situation has developed, but has failed to keep pace with the changing situation. A lack of clarity and consistency has led to misunderstandings and frustration between British Canoeing, its membership, strategic partners and the wider public, and created a barrier to taking a robust and consistent campaigning position.

    British Canoeing has stated that where there is no statutory navigation authority, payment should not be made for passage or linear access along inland water, and have withdrawn from many past arrangements which involved payment for use of water. However, confusion remains over some arrangements, including sites operated by the NGB’s. This compromises the BC federal agreement and weakens the campaigning position; to the detriment of British Canoeing’s membership and the wider public.

    Building on the success of Scotland, and following Welsh devolution, WCA (now Canoe Wales) began campaigning for legislation to enshrine existing rights into comprehensive legislation with a code of conduct, and this is now on the Welsh Government Agenda. British Canoeing has put on record its belief that this solution would work for England, but its commitment to campaigning for comprehensive legislation for open access with a code of conduct, in England, is unclear.

    The experience of Scotland suggests that a successful navigation case will provide impetus to the move for legislation, as with the Spey ruling prior to the Land Reform (Scotland) Act.
    British Canoeing has stated that the cost of mounting or defending a case would be prohibitive, and as such, not a viable option. This has constrained the access campaign; however, the necessary funds could be raised.

    Our access effort is currently spread very thinly across negotiating for ‘agreements / arrangements’, developing canoe trails and lobbying for improved access.

    With no clear vision of our end-goal, the access effort lacks direction and focus.

    Without a clear strategy there is no way to measure progress, or to ensure that funds are directed where they are most needed.

    We call upon the board and members of British Canoeing to:

    (i) Make an unequivocal commitment to campaign for legislation to secure open access for all recreational users of water and waterside, accompanied by a code of conduct, by:

    · Setting out on or before 30th August 2018, and implementing, a costed strategy to secure legislation;

    · Setting out the vision for the role of BC in monitoring and protecting access, following legislation.

    (ii) Address constraints on pro-active campaigning by:

    · Investigating mechanisms to make available a portion of membership fees for targeted pro-active access campaigning.

    · Establishing clear criteria for determining whether an access-related case should be pursued and/or defended.

    · Carrying out a review of existing information to identify suitable rivers for a navigation case.

    (iii) Carry out a comprehensive review of British Canoeing Activities in England and Wales; identify and resolve any contradictions and/or conflicts between BC’s current activities and:

    · British Canoeing’s stated access policy and aspirations;

    · The home nations and the BC Federal Agreement

    · British Canoeing’s aspiration to represent the public in terms of canoeing and kayaking in the UK;

    (iv) Review and report progress against the above annually at the British Canoeing AGM

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    Ok folks - who's up for meeting at the Wheatsheaf for a meal beforehand? Make an evening of it

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    I've put the Quorn one (Tue 6th March) in my diary, so interested to hear general feedback from attendees present at any of the earlier events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregandGinaS View Post
    Ok folks - who's up for meeting at the Wheatsheaf for a meal beforehand? Make an evening of it
    As the debate seems to be getting interesting I think I'll make the effort to come along. Wouldn't mind a meal beforehand either.

    I'll be coming straight from Harrogate after finishing work as there is not much point in detouring home through Leeds.

    What time will you thinking of for a meal meal beforehand?

    I'm not currently a BCU member I have been in the past but didn't think I got an enormous amount for it, is that an issue?

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    If British Canoeing only talked to existing members the aspiration to attract more wouldn't stand a chance!

    We will certainly welcome you, and I guess eating ought to happen soon after 6pm...

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    On my way but a little confused about where it's been held

    The picture at the top of this thread says the Wheatsheaf but the email I got from British canoeing says greywood Hall?

    Any clarification would be appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by E_McNeill View Post
    On my way but a little confused about where it's been held

    The picture at the top of this thread says the Wheatsheaf but the email I got from British canoeing says greywood Hall?

    Any clarification would be appreciated

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    Ah - I believe they are one and the same place - or near enough - should all make sense on arrival!

    My afternoon didn't go to plan so I will miss the meal - just had lunch and departing asap!

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    Did anyone go and would they recommend others attending the later events. If it takes four hours out of my day to tell me something I could read in 20 minutes, I'm not that keen on making the effort. Did the audience participation serve them well?

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    Well - that was one of the most encouraging encounters I suspect any of us have ever had with Head Office!

    Nottingham was getting twitchy over the turnout as comparatively few bothered to pre-register... and I knew a few key folk (keen to go) were unable to make it... but we had 22 folk from around the region... including the usual suspects (club volunteers)... but also folk with no attachment to any club and who I have never met before.

    Guin Batten (Head of Strategy and Devlopment) pitched things well in setting the stage and stuck to key highlights which were (mostly) relevant / interesting for those in the room... but then handed over to Ben Seal (Places to Paddle Manager) who did the rest. Ben also struck a good tone, introducing himself as a canoeist and showing good awareness of his audience's understandable scepticism.

    What came across most clearly was a depth of commitment to winning people around by listening and by delivering on what was wanted!

    Key argument: whilst we believe we have a PRN... the ways in which this is contested means the actual situation on the ground presents unacceptable barriers... and now is THE time (because of what's happening in Wales, because Brexit gives us opportunities, because of drive from enthusiasts) to get to a point where all concerned recognise that we should all (canoeists, wild swimmers, whoever) have access to water.

    The core of the consultation was about the "Charter" that's to sit at the core of everything else that's done. The broad thrust of this was discussed around tables, as was the wording... and the 5-6 key focus areas were gone into in some depth. This was all in early-draft form... but a lot of thought had clearly gone into it (not least through the volunteers who advise on this front) and as a starting point it was well received.

    Of course, subsequent consultations may be slightly different... but on the basis of what we saw, engagement would appear to be very much worthwhile!

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