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    This survey gives plenty of opportunities to demonstrate the importance of access on foot to and alongside inland water. Let's make sure they get the message!

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    Thanks Pam. Done, with a little emphasis on the "near water" bits.
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    I have filled in the survey but I'm afraid I do have an inherent distrust/dislike of The Ramblers Association. Whilst not all ramblers are Two-sticked, fundamentalists, the aim of the organisation is to gain access to everywhere for walkers but to the exclusion of ALL other users; be you on a horse, a treader or, heaven forbid you should want to use some kind of motorised vehicle.

    They have in the past, appeared to side with the equine groups to challenge motor vehicle rights on Byways, only to then start to make noises about how dangerous horses are to walkers and how they make the bridleways slippy and muddy.

    (I should just note that I am not a "tear the countryside to bits" 4X4 driver but a responsible trail-bike rider)
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    Good point you make there BigYellowTractor - it is a sad world we live in!
    Being a "green-laner" I have experienced the ire of ramblers first hand, although I was on a BOAT at the time (not a canoe of course).

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    I have filled in the survey, but my suggested for improved access relate only to access to land covered by water, and access for bicycles (which, as BYT says, they may not like, but they did ask!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmac View Post
    Good point you make there BigYellowTractor - it is a sad world we live in!
    Being a "green-laner" I have experienced the ire of ramblers first hand, although I was on a BOAT at the time (not a canoe of course).
    I walk and cycle many green lanes in the Peak District and in principal have no problem with any other user, provided they do not damage the lanes we all love. There are many Green lanes in the Peak area that have been completely destroyed by motorised vehicles, the surfaces were built for 1 horse power not 100hp. Once the top surface has been damaged the rain then makes it even worse. Who is going to pay to repair them, answer no one as they know they will just be trashed again. Many of these lanes are the oldest roads in the area, no one has the right to destroy them, if your activity causes damage you should stop doing it.
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    I don't think the ire I've experienced is to do with damaging the lanes - just for being there in a motorised vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmac View Post
    I don't think the ire I've experienced is to do with damaging the lanes - just for being there in a motorised vehicle.
    I suppose it depends on the terrain you are riding in, if it is flattish the damage may be minimal, if so they are just being selfish. In the Peaks it is the hill sections that suffer the most and the worst they get the more the 4x4's like it as they then present more of a challenge. It's sad seeing these Lanes that are several hundred years old being lost to future generations.
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