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    Anyone have experience with the Bufflehead Sailing canoe?
    I have plans ordered (cheap) so I can get more information.

    I'm not worried about the building.
    How does it sail?
    Any strange features.

    Thanks,

    Marc

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    The Bufflehead as designed uses lots of high tech materials, carbon fiber, and careful sail design by Stuart Hopkins of Dabbler Sails. The sail has important reefing possibilities. I haven't sailed one, but am not aware of severe quirks. I believe there have been some rigging variations in different builds.

    Why not contact Hugh Horton? He has moved to Cedar Key Florida.

    Bob

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    I contacted Horton by email.
    He did not continue the conversation.

    I have ordered plans, as shown above.

    Still looking for actual experience.

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    Axel Schmid 'runs' the bootsbaugarage' and you have probably seen his postings on Bufflehead. You may have seen this article by Horton:

    https://www.bootsbaugarage.ch/hugh/h_essay27_en.htm


    Schmid invites questions and may prove more accessible for info; you might try him at axel@bootsbaugarage.ch

    Bob

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    Yes, I've done the Google search and came up with Axel and Gougeon Epoxyworks as the best sources of information so far.
    I've asked about Carbon Mast sources and Axel manufactures them, but my being in Texas led him to refer me to someone in the US.

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    Did he have much to offer about Bufflehead performance or quirks? I'd like to try one someday.

    Bob

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    No he just cautioned me that the build was not for a beginner and asked my experience.
    He also said that the plans were not a step by step building guide, the builder needed to be able to work from basic plans - apparently section cuts and and overall plan.
    It didn't seem that planking thickness and other such dimensions would be provided.
    When I replied and asked another question there was no reply.

    Plans are only $40. Cheap enough that I just ordered the plans by snail mail. Now I'm getting anxious even though I can't start right away.
    From other articles on the internet it appears there will be additional information which will allow you to find equipment suppliers - sails/ mast.

    I'll let you know what comes.

    FYI, what I really wanted was to build Meade Gougeon's Everglades Challenge boat, but that appears to be a different hull. I couldn't get in touch with the builder yet. The most obvious differences is a transom stern, and outriggers. One article said the boat was ~2' longer than Bufflehead.

    FYI 2, if I build it I intent to use strip planking instead of multi-chine plywood.
    Last edited by MarcUp; 19th-April-2017 at 05:31 PM.

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    Was that Hugh Horton or Axel Schmid you were talking to?

    Bob

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    Horton sells the plans. The email traffic was from him (post #7)

    Axel builds carbon masts and also turned me on to a Horton seat for a kayak I am building.

    I've talked to both about Bufflehead.

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    Bob,

    I received the "plans" from Horton as a download.
    It really was good that he was upfront and said the plans were not a complete building instruction.

    From his letter:
    "Bufflehead's plan does not include construction drawings. It's for someone who knows what to do with a full size set of patterns, & can take it from there. Many choices are left open, because I haven't wanted to pre-suppose anyone's preferences.

    For scantlings & methods, there is much information as to how it's been done, & possibilities to consider."

    He was absolutely up front and it was more true than I would have expected.
    There is a nice hull definition in PDF. Section cuts with lines for both plywood multi-chine and strip plank. You will need to find a big printer for the 34" wide hull or figure out how to break it into sections.
    A dimensioned sail plan.
    Pictures of parts laid on a board with a 1" grid.

    No sizing (planking 2-5mm as desired, kevlar on the inside of the hull)
    No position of the mast and leeboard
    No "suggestion" of where to put the cockpit.
    No sizing of the rudder parts.
    No deck definition.

    In short it was exactly what he said, I just didn't believe it enough.
    I had been hoping for a little more.
    The hull shape looks nice.

    He did offer to answer any questions.
    I haven't decided to build or not. It's quite possible I don't have enough experience.

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    The Bufflehead plans used to be sold via Duckworks but now come directly from HH. I suspect that is because about the paucity of the plans.

    Bob

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    Bob,

    Correction to my last.
    The download came in 6 emails.
    Somehow I didn't look at the attachments for the 1st one.

    I have the deck plan, and an updated sketch of changes
    Also the shapes of the plywood planks.

    Marc

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