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    I haven't seen this reported anywhere else - I'm not quite sure what to make of it. It sounds like an improvement on what we have now, but I hope it's not going to be a political fudge.

    http://gov.wales/newsroom/environmen...ation/?lang=en

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    jam tomorrow.


    perhaps.
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    Though I won't hold my breath for improvements to come in. I thought the admission that there was bullying, and unfair practices showed that at least that had looked into it a bit.

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    That looks to have been published last week, well done for picking it up.
    MODERATORS, perhaps this ought to be moved to the access section?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 25272527 View Post
    That looks to have been published last week?
    The written statement from the Minister was dated 13 February, but seems not to have appeared in public until 14th February, which co-incided with a meeting of the petitions committee and the Waters of Wales - WoW Paddle to the Senedd and Rally - we heard about it from the Radio Wales reporter early that morning! Because of the timings, we did not have an opportunity to respond to the statement in our submission to the petitions committee for that date, but they discussed the statement briefly:

    Minutes of the Petitions Committee 14th February 2017:
    "The Committee considered correspondence on the petition and agreed to write to the Cabinet Secretary for Environment and Rural Affairs following her statement issued on 13 February, seeking clarification on whether the planned consultation will include the option for a statutory public right of access to land and water, and the timeframe for this."

    The 'Waters of Wales - WoW' response (below) has been circulated.

    "
    Waters of Wales – WoW response to written statement ‘Improving Opportunities to Access the Outdoors for Recreation’ from the Welsh Government Minister for Environment and Rural Affairs issued on 13th February 2017

    Waters of Wales – WoW welcomes the Minister’s acknowledgement that Wales needs a better and fairer approach to public access for outdoor recreation; that the current system is too complex and burdensome; that the law needs to reflect current recreational needs and be more flexible to changes in demand and participation; and the need to establish clarity.
    Waters of Wales – WoW highlights that Welsh Government’s aspirations, and those of the public, will be met by the solution recommended by the Welsh Assembly petitions committee in 2009 in response to a petition delivered at the end of 2008: “… [legislation] would provide clarity, certainty and permanence and we believe that the Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 provides a basis from which a unique Welsh model may be developed. …”[i].

    Waters of Wales – WoW outlines that since 2009 the issue of improving public access has been the subject of two inquiries and a green paper consultation; and questions why a second consultation is proposed following closely on from the previous one.
    Waters of Wales - WoW recognise the need to consult on a proposal to ensure the maximum benefit for Wales. This clearly must be balanced against the need to swiftly resolve the long-standing uncertainty and conflict whilst delivering value for money for the public purse.
    Waters of Wales – WoW delivered a similar petition in November 2016, calling on the National Assembly for Wales to “urge the Welsh Government to implement a Bill to establish statutory public rights of access to land and water for recreational and other purposes”. This petition is currently with the petitions committee.

    Waters of Wales – WoW congratulates Welsh Government on the effort it has put into testing alternatives, and emphasises that in the interests of the public, now is the time to implement the simple, permanent and cost-effective solution already demonstrated in Scotland, and recommended by the Welsh Assembly Petitions Committee 2009 Inquiry.
    Background Information:
    The Welsh Assembly sustainability committee made an unexplained departure, at a very late stage in their 2009 Inquiry, from the recommendations of the petitions committee. Welsh Government launched an alternative process based on Government-sponsored negotiations for voluntary agreement, in spite of evidence from previous Welsh Government sponsored pilot projects that this approach had consistently failed to deliver sustainable public access. The new project cost the taxpayer approximately 3m over 5 years for water-based activity alone, before Welsh Government acknowledged that the process had not delivered. Welsh Government later launched a green paper consultation which was delayed several times before the findings were uploaded to the Welsh Government website shortly before the Welsh Assembly election in May 2016 and left “to inform the next Government”.

    Waters of Wales – WoW
    Waters of Wales (WoW) is a community of independent campaigners for legislation enshrining public rights of responsible access to inland water in Wales.
    We stand for responsible and sustainable access to the Waters of Wales for all, free of unnecessary restrictions, whilst respecting the environment, wildlife and other people.
    We believe that recreational water users can successfully coexist, without conflict. We decided to set up an independent community because we see a need for representation of the public who wish to enjoy recreation on the Waters of Wales, whether as individuals or members of clubs or organisations. These may include, but are not limited to: swimmers, non-motorised boat users, gorge-walkers and birdwatchers.
    For more information, please visit http://www.watersofwales.org.uk/ or the Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/WatersofWales.WoW.
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    Last edited by Pam Bell; 20th-February-2017 at 10:25 PM.

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    Thanks for the up-date Pam, very clear and useful to have that background.
    Mike

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