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Thread: New access in Mid Wales

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    Default New access in Mid Wales

    After some time and a bit of SPLASH funding it is now possible to access Nant y Moch reservoir.
    Pentir Pumlumon have negotiated and agreed terms of access with the reservoir owner and electricity producer Statkraft. They have also created a good launch spot where you can park a vehicle and trailer.
    The terms of access can be found here.. http://www.pumlumon.org.uk/map-pages...ch-activities/

    Phil

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    Good a reservoir being opened up but the T&Cs aren't very user-friendly in terms of form filling, requirements and cost and it seems geared up to groups rather than the individual which they say in the blurb.

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    It does have it's restrictions, I agree. Despite this it is a start, the dreaded H&S issues force the form filling andrequirements. Given a bit of time, and evidence that access can be achieved without any issues perhaps we will see less restrictions and more man made waters opened up.
    It is very easy for a club to be a member, suitably experienced and insured club members can then use it.

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    As a dammed river it could be argued that there is a public right of navigation under common law which does not require any form of permission. Nevertheless it is good to see this as a move in the right direction and perhaps something that will be influenced by future Welsh Assembly legislation on access to the countryside anyhow.
    Keith

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    A reservoir passport scheme is also in place for some of the Beacons Reservoirs. As has been said, it is a start. However, the Beacons scheme was initially introduced (sold) on the basis that it would be good for operators as no-one would be able to paddle without going with a passport scheme holder! The rationale is now described in terms of the scheme being a precursor to open public access, when the operators of the reservoirs have been reassured by the success of the present arrangements. We all know how often restrictive schemes convert to open public access . It is important to remind the utility companies at appropriate times that while the schemes meet the needs of specific user-groups, they do not address the access needs of the general public. 'Health and Safety' is used as an excuse for all sorts of restrictions on the public, but the principle of 'volenti non fit injuria' which underpins the Scottish system could work equally well in Wales.

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    The reservoir owners in providing access are in effect inviting people onto their land and water hence the H & S concerns.

    However if the government made it law that reservoirs (once publicly owned) and the land around them was free access areas then the H & S responsibility is no longer the concern of the owners because risks are then the responsibility of those taking access.

    This is a move government (English and Welsh) could take without much difficulty and probably with little opposition.

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    To add in these waters could be covered/included in BCU/Canoe England license which would make access easier.


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