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    Default Inchcailloch Weekend trip 21/22rd April CONFIRMED

    I have eventually managed to get in touch with the people who deal with the booking of the camp site on Inchcailloch. This island is on Loch Lomond and just off Balmaha.

    The camp site is basic in that there are only toilets. no running water. You need to bring or filter your own water and take away your own rubbish. There is a ferry service to the camp site so if you are nervous about the conditions you can always get the ferry back to land, if the weather is rough. I am sure they would tow the canoe.

    There is a maximum of 14 people allowed on the camp site at once. My intention is to book the whole site for SotP for the Friday night till the Sunday or Monday. The question is when is the best weekend to choose. there are still a lot of weekends to choose from. If you can suggest roughly when you think it would be a good idea it would be useful. The site is open from early April with only May being heavily booked so far.

    Already I would expect there to be myself and possibly my two girls with Stuart and Susan so that is 5 spaces away already.

    Although limited to 14 on the island there would be nothing to stop others visiting during the day and even camping on other islands nearby.

    So what are your thoughts? Who is interested etc?



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    We would be interested. Would be nice to meet some more of the folks from the site.
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    Both of us will come along , provided you entertain us with at least one trick .Regarding dates , we're happy to go with the flow

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    I'd prefer April, but not 15/16.

    Any later in the year and Lomond is not a nice place to be.

    Where are cars left for this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tenboats1
    Where are cars left for this?
    There is a Large car park across the road from the put in indicated (100+ cars). However there are lots of options for alternate put ins, e.g doing the Endrick first. Or almost anywhere around the edge of the loch (even from the Luss area)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenboats1
    I'd prefer April, but not 15/16.

    Any later in the year and Lomond is not a nice place to be.

    Where are cars left for this?
    As Philip said there is a big car park at Balmaha. I have left cars there overnight before but there are no guarantees.

    I like Loch Lomond at any time of year but I appreciate it is busier after April but the advantage is you would have longer evenings for paddling and socialising. We are allowed fires or barbeque's only in the barbecue pans that are on site but you have to bring your own fuel to the island.
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    I would be up for it, other committments permitting.

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    Would be interested in coming along, but we also have two children and it quickly bumps the numbers up .

    I had thought of suggesting a meet later in the year for those of us with young children. If you don't have kids having them tag along could be a bit restricting. Also if a few children get together and see others their own size enjoying boats it will only help encourage them to be interested and confident around canoes etc.

    As to timing I agree with tenboats that Loch Lomond can be a bit busy after April, but Inchcailloch is nice at anytime of year and we had thought about exploring the Islands sometime this summer regardless of the legions of jetskis and powerboats.
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    I actually forgot to ask what the cost was

    What might be an idea is for me to book two weekends. One in April / early May depending on availability with another family one for the summer when the weather may be more suitable for children.
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    Yes a rough idea of cost might be good! and depending on numbers two weekends would work.

    I'd come to both if I'm allowed
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    Any confirmation of dates yet for this trip? If we're around, we're definitely up for it.

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    I'd be interested in making the haul up from Wales, preferably at a quiet time.
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    NOW TAKING NAMES for 21 / 22rd April

    Sorry to shout but wanted to make sure no one misses this. I have booked the island camp site for Friday the 21nd and Saturday the 22rd April. There will be one other person camping there but we have the other 14 places. The cost is £2 per person per night, under 12s are free but still count toward the total number of visitors.. There is also the option to stay over the Sunday night (or longer) if you wish. You could come earlier for that matter if it suits.

    The facilities ate limited to toilet s and that is it. There is no running water (although the Loch water can be filtered or boiled to make it drinkable). Fires or barbeque's are allowed in the designed containers but all fuel must be brought to the island. You can park your car at Balmaha in a large free car park but as always it is at your own risk.

    There is a large flat clear area for pitching tents there may be trees to pitch one or two hammocks at most but I would not rely on that option being available. Bivi and tarp should not be a problem if you have a couple of canoe poles or the like.

    So we have a maximum of 14 places. I am will not bring my daughters to this trip as I will probably be bust checking everyone is settled in okay and also to maximize the places available. If this booking goes well we may well try another summer one.

    So names so far.

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    Also if you want the Sunday or other nights booked let me know as well.
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    Please book Tenboats and Tenboat's Banker in.

    We would normally tandem in the Spirit for this, but are prepared to take 2 solos, a Prism and SoloPlus if anyone wants to demo them.

    Please let me know in good time so we can pack and plan accordingly.
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    Good point about the boats. I am planning on bringing the Prospector (as long as it is here) but can bring the Pack as well and tow it out if anyone is wanting to play with it.

    As much as I have had no problems in the car park I would not recommend leaving canoes on the roof overnight. You may be able to make arrangements with the boatyard. And as I said in earlier posts you can arrange to get to the island by ferry if the weather is rough.

    Also I have to do work today so in the event of the places being oversubscribed priority goes to the first to post asking for a place.
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    A view from the beach, from last summer, just to whet your appetite.

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    Christine and I would like to join you.
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    I would like to go, and will take Ross along. Depending on work I might not be able to come along until Saturday morning.

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    I'm game.

    Would like to try any wee solo's that folk have along, just to get a gist of how the different styles feel. Small seaworthy types rather than river-runners(if there's a difference-still know nought about canoes).

    Can arrange a bootload of firewood. No way I'd have room to carry it over but if anyone's towing a spare I guess that wouldn't be a problem.

    I've left a car at Balmaha a couple of times too with no problems. Even left the bike there one night(didn't sleep a wink for worrying though ).

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    List taken Out to save confusion. Only current list left on thread

    Groovski I will probably have room for some wood, Maybe loads of room.

    Doc can you bring your Tilley lamp thing. If we are not having a fire it could provide an alternative focal point.
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    You can count myself and the mutineer in

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    Almost fully booked in 4 hours. We may need to convince them to make a bigger site for the next time. I apologies to those who log on later and find there are no spaces left but if it is any consolation I will be arranging a meet up together with BCUK at loch Achray and then we will have much more space.
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    John is there anything that would prevent anyone wishing to join the party from camping overnight on one of the other islands?. Everybody could still meet up even if it is while afloat. Because I would love to attend maybe even the better half, but did not want to book a place incase I have to work which would have meant a lost place someone else could have taken. Cheers for now.....Mike B

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    I was wondering that too.
    Having never seen a wallaby I'd be well willing to head off of an evening, or simply wander off if there were too many folk for the main site .

    Wouldn't even mind a bit of night paddling if the company was too good to leave before darkness.
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    I have often camped on the nearby islands but the closest ones are heavily wooded. I can direct you to points where you could pitch a small tent but that is all. If you are using a hammock and tarp then the world is your oyster

    You could also camp on the shore of Loch lomond just up from Balmaha.

    Groovski, the island with the wallabies is not that close that I would think of it as a place to pop over to to camp, more like a trip to be done during the day.

    Mike, if Doc is not going to be there till Saturday you would be able to camp at the site on Friday night then an alternative spot on Saturday night. If staying over on Sunday night you would have the option of the main site again.
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    I had not put my name down as it was a little way off time wise, but if there is hammock space elswhere then I may make a late decision and join you all.
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    I know it looks a bit full, but if there is still a space left, either myself or Paul C would love to come along.
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    List taken Out to save confusion. Only current list left on thread

    Doc will probably not arrive till Saturday so there are two spaces free for Saturday night. As has been mentioned there are wild camping spaces available nearby so if someone is keen they could probably still come along.
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    Hi John,
    Alan booked me in for 2 nights (It is marked on he calender at home) but I have a study tour booked for Sunday 23rd so can't stay the Saturday night.

    I'll get him to post you when he gets home.

    P.S. Should be studying now but guess what on the forum .At least it is not in work time though.

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    So will Alan still be staying over on the Saturday night?

    Either way it means Silvergirl and Paul C can stay the Friday and Saturday. Sinvergirl had the last place anyway and Paul C can have one of Docs places on Friday and your Place on Saturday. Perhaps the list below will make it clearer

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    Talking Study tour date changed

    Oops'
    Sorry John,
    Just checked my Email and the study tour has been changed to 30th April.
    So can I please rebook for the Saturday night.

    Sorry if if given any false hope folks.

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    New list

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    I am guessing at Silvergirl's intentions here so once she confirms I will update again
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    It will just be me both nights as one of us will have to stay at home to look after the kids. I've been told I get first bags on the weekend as its my turn . So you can take Paul C off the friday night as it is a definate either or situation .
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    List updated and previous lists edited out to save confusion.
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    Information received today along with the booking form. I am booking the 14 available places for both nights even though it is not fully booked yet for us but I a can afford the extra few quid if there are some spaces.

    Also I have classed Ross as an adult just in case there are any changes and since Doc is Doc I am sure he can afford it







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    Blimey! How did I miss this one?

    I'll be passing by at some point as I'm on the Caledonian Canal the following week, with a buddy. I'll see if she fancies a stopover with people I've mostly only met on t'internet

    We can always hammock and camp on another island, if that's OK...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimH
    Blimey! How did I miss this one?
    I had kind of wondered why you had not commented. Still waiting to hear when you are coming up for your fishing trip as well.
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    well I've pencilled it in and I expect to add ink soon, It sounds like a must'nt miss w/e so chances are I'll be there, but hammocking nearby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Redondo
    well I've pencilled it in and I expect to add ink soon, It sounds like a must'nt miss w/e so chances are I'll be there, but hammocking nearby.
    At the moment there are still two spaces left for the Friday night so chances are when you confirm you can still stay at the campsite on the first night. Might need a bivi or tent for that night though.

    Also remember there will be a combined SotP and BCUK meet at Loch Achray, probably in May so if you can't make this one there will be another chance to attend a meet up relatively soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiKelly
    I had kind of wondered why you had not commented. Still waiting to hear when you are coming up for your fishing trip as well.
    Funnily enough, I'm contemplating the first w/e in April for a trip up to give my partner on the Caledonian Canal trip a taste of wild(ish) camping, and perhaps wet a line whilst at it.

    I've just been up at Windermere, and got the rods out for the 1st time this year - no joy, as rather cold, but I've an insight into handling rods/landing nets/drogue/anchor AND canoe simultaneously

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    John can you ink me in for Friday night. It looks like my trip to the Lakes this coming w/e is going belly up so it's a chance to make a longer trip at hopefully a better time for me.

    Now who wanted wood, and who wanted sailcloth?
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    I have added you and I was looking for paddle wood

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    Thanks John, I suspect Saturday night will sort itself out, looking at the ahem' 'photos' you put up there is more than enough room for me to wander clear of the campsite and put my hammock up [unless that's a no -no]

    The wood I have selected to bring with me is a piece of cherry, a piece of chestnut and a couple of maple boards. I reckon that with a bit of adapting you could get a pair of laminated paddles out of each set [well that's the idea anyway]
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    You will not be able to camp on the island with the camp site but there are other islands close by where you can camp. The access laws do not allow wild camping in an area where there is a paying camp site. But I am sure there will be no problems in getting a spot.

    Is the wood you are bringing thick enough to make a paddle on its own? I am not sure I have the skills to be laminating planks.
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    I'll scope out the other islands for Saturday night.

    By thick do you mean wide? or thick? Off the top of my head the cherry needs to be sawn down the middle and the pre- glued square maple pieces laminated with a bit of cherry [or chestnut] either side. Clamps and weights wil do it. once you have a rough paddle outline the pattern can be placed over the top and the the whole thing shaped as if it was one piece.
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    I mean thick as in about 30mm thick by about 200mm wide by about 1500mm long.
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    John
    can I take the last place for Friday? and I will keep Don Redondo company on Saturday. I will need pointing to a spot to pitch my tent though as I dont have a hammock.

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    No problem. And I have a spare hammock

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiKelly
    I mean thick as in about 30mm thick by about 200mm wide by about 1500mm long.
    only in sweet chestnut if I remember right. I'll get back to you sometime after this w/e. I won't be going by the store before then.
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    Meant to say earlier that I got the confirmation of our booking through from the Park Authority. So we are all set. Just need to remember to bring the confirmation letter with me.
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    John,

    Jacqui and I will be up for the weekend, in transit to Fort William.

    We'll probably launch from Luss, and camp wherever, as we're hammocking, but I'm open to suggestions.

    See you sometime up there.

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    So is that the Friday or Saturday you are arriving? You would be a lot closer launching from Balmaha but from Luss you will get to see more of the Loch but if it is windy you might have fun getting to Inchcialloch
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiKelly
    So is that the Friday or Saturday you are arriving? You would be a lot closer launching from Balmaha but from Luss you will get to see more of the Loch but if it is windy you might have fun getting to Inchcialloch
    Friday if we can get away, Sat if not.

    Need to be awa' early Sunday, for a noon arrival at FW. hence keenness to be on the A82.

    May moderate plans according Weather forecast/better planning...

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    When you are saying hammack else where, does that mean elsewhere on the same island or "elsewhere" another island? cos im gonna see if i can make it if im not down the road.
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    We are talking elsewhere on another island or the shore. In saying that it is still very near.
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    Looking forward to the trip and trying to finalize plans, two questions:

    1) Is anybody by chance passing through Edinburgh with room for us in the vehicle, we would be most grateful and happily split petro costs etc. Hate to rent a car just to park it in a parking lot all weekend.

    2) Our campstove is still in the US, due to come here with me in May, would someone be kind enough to lend us use of theirs? Again, would be most grateful and happily split fuel costs.

    Sorry for being so needy,

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    Hi Lucas,

    I'm not passing thro' Edinburgh but could pick you up from Stirling if you don't get any other offers. Haven't a clue what sort of time I'm heading down yet.

    I have a trangia stove that has been in storage for a couple of years that you are welcome to borrow for the weekend, I had been thinking of bringing it down as a spare and also to test out/ compare with the MSR anyway.

    Let me know if this is of any help .
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    Thanks for the offers, please do bring the other stove along.

    Hadn't considered bus options, Does anybody know how close I could get to the get-in via bus?

    Thanks, will keep the Stirling offer in mind.

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    So what sort of time are people aiming to get there on Friday?. ( I could use a hand to get my boat off the car )
    I usually have to work Fridays but my boss is fairly flexible so I'm hoping to get time off to come down earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucas
    Hadn't considered bus options, Does anybody know how close I could get to the get-in via bus?Lucas
    Answer = 100m.

    The Balmaha bus park's in the big tourist carpark and it is 100m from the waters edge (see Endrick River note) Grid NS 421909, water at NS 419909.

    You would probably want to get the train to Balloch station to catch the bus (which goes from Alexandria).

    Or, put in at Balloch and paddle the 9.5k to the camp site.

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