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    Default New "River Access For All" campaign launched.

    Quote Originally Posted by davidh View Post
    If it was my fight I'd be clearing out the dead wood and getting a new movement going.........
    If I'm invited I may join in......
    Quote Originally Posted by dougdew99 View Post
    However, the biggest access issue of all is the lack of interest by CE members. As was remarked by the chairman, " if our members were interested in this topic the room would be full to overflowing. ".
    Quote Originally Posted by Angut View Post
    Meanwhile back in the real world, I think we just plough on and let CE catch up if they can.
    Quote Originally Posted by Brevan View Post
    It doesn't matter if that is CE/ BCU or a campaign led by others in the paddling community.
    I think it's clear that CE's priorities are split, their key focus is elsewhere, and they don' t have the resource. Given that are they best placed to lead? Or should that come from another source that can make use of CE's resources where required?
    Quote Originally Posted by Puddlesurfer View Post
    Is there no way to set up an alternative to Canoe England?
    A full alternative to Canoe England would just recreate the same obstacles to progress as CE have to live with. But there is an opportunity to create an effective campaign for recognition that there is, and always has been a public right of navigation on all rivers in England and Wales subject only to the physical constraints of the river and the size/nature of the craft using them.

    A small group of paddlers have now started this ball rolling by creating River Access For All Ltd (a company limited by guarantee) and www.riveraccessforall.co.uk. With the support of committed paddlers (and swimmers etc) we can start to create the effective campaign that is currently lacking.

    Please visit the site and sign up as a supporter on the "What can I do?" page.
    Keith

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    Well done Keith... just signed up...
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    Done.


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    Signed up.

    Well done for setting it up.

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    Done

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    Signed up and passed a link onto my canoe club.
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    Signed up, and will put a link on my website.

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    Just put a link on my club's message board.
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    This looks great. Please let us supporters know if there is anything we can do to further the cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samB View Post
    Please let us supporters know if there is anything we can do to further the cause.
    Sam
    Don't worry Sam - that's exactly what we intend to do. That's the point that the website turns into a campaign.
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    Hi,
    That's me signed up too, will also get a link on the club website.......

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    Joined! Good Luck!
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    Signed up.
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    Signed up.. maybe I'll get to holiday and paddle in England someday soon.
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    Signed up.

    Really nicely put together website. Good work.

    ...if only life was that simple...

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    Signed up.

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    Done
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    Thank you to everyone involved in this.


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    Done

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    Signed up too, hope there'll be something coming out of it!

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    Signed up and passed on
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    Signed up too, hope there'll be something coming out of it!
    We'll be able to reveal the plans soon. Thank you for becoming a supporter.

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    members and supporters can add a signature image and link by adding this code to their signature.
    HTML Code:
    [CENTER][URL="http://www.riveraccessforall.co.uk"][IMG]http://www.riveraccessforall.co.uk/images/media/468x60_rafa.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [/CENTER]
    Last edited by Quicky; 24th-October-2012 at 08:34 AM.

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    I like the logo....very inclusive
    Last edited by Sprout; 24th-October-2012 at 09:17 AM.

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    A very good idea, we need to move on with the access campaign, and this is a good avenue to bring our collective

    pressure to bear on the powers that be,in order to address the issue, and achieve our goal.

    I have signed up, and I will canvas a few other paddlers who are not sotp members to join as well.

    Good effort, well done.

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    An excellent web site Keith.
    All signed up.
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    Signed up.

    That's a very nice site Keith - well done.

    Would it be possible to add those "share" things for things like Facebook, Twitter etc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pieface View Post
    Would it be possible to add those "share" things for things like Facebook, Twitter etc?
    We are a small team and we are very wary of trying to run before we can walk. We saw what happened to Canoe England at the start of the year when they were unable to keep up with the volume of comments on their Facebook page. We recognise the power of these social media and we will keep the matter under review but we have no immediate plans for Facebook or Twitter.
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    It's good to see:
    a) A clear argument, with evidence, for the legality of public navigation.
    b) An opportunity for counter arguments to be presented.

    It'll be interesting to see what b) might bring about.

    Thanks very much, Keith and co. A well presented and responsible site.

    dave

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    A great initiative and excellent website. How do I support financially? Is a monthly direct debit possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinM View Post
    A great initiative and excellent website. How do I support financially? Is a monthly direct debit possible?
    Thanks for the thought Gavin.

    We made a concious decision not to ask for financial support until the site and the campaign had established credibility. So far it's been financed directly by those of us that have organised it. We will need financial support and we are currently setting up the systems to handle this which will include the ability for monthly direct debit.

    The key priority for the moment is to enlist supporters that are prepared to do things and to make sure we are all pulling in the same direction. More on that soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithD View Post
    We are a small team and we are very wary of trying to run before we can walk. We saw what happened to Canoe England at the start of the year when they were unable to keep up with the volume of comments on their Facebook page. We recognise the power of these social media and we will keep the matter under review but we have no immediate plans for Facebook or Twitter.
    You dont have to set up a twitter or facebook account. You can, I think, add code that allows the person to "like" your page on twitter and facebook. This will put a link to your website on their twitter feed and facebook page and so make your page visible to all their subscribers.
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    Signed up.

    Well done the site looks great, count me in if I can help in any way.
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    I do tend to agree with those advocating Facebook and the like. I've found using Facebook to promote Paddle Points leads directly to new people signing up who I wouldn't otherwise have reached. Its so easy for FB members to click "share" and then all their "friends" see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiKelly View Post
    You dont have to set up a twitter or facebook account. You can, I think, add code that allows the person to "like" your page on twitter and facebook. This will put a link to your website on their twitter feed and facebook page and so make your page visible to all their subscribers.
    Thanks John. I like the sound of that! We're looking into it now.
    Keith

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    A very well thought out and put together approach. Presumably the limited company limits personal liability which is important and the opportunities to present counter evidence allows other interests their chance to present their views. The bigger this gets the greater will be the imperative that they do that. This is going to be really interesting. What will be critically important is to raise the profile of this site as much as possible so the imperative that other interests present their evidence becomes overwhelming.

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    Signed ... will flag on the forum of one canoe club forum and the FB page of the other.

    A query about the "Forum User Name" on the signup screen, no mention of which forum and some folks have a few different user names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Potty Paddler View Post
    Signed ... will flag on the forum of one canoe club forum and the FB page of the other.
    Thanks for your support.

    Quote Originally Posted by Potty Paddler View Post
    A query about the "Forum User Name" on the signup screen, no mention of which forum and some folks have a few different user names.
    I was concious of the number of people from this forum and others who I know only by their forum name so this was an just an imperfect attempt to recognise more supporters.
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    Like the logo - car stickers (could be sold) would be a good idea.

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    Not a problem Keith ... I suppose as it's free text I could have put "Potty Paddler - SotP, UKPS, c-Wav, etc; admin - ...."
    Posted to club sites/pages.
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    "if I'm invited I may join in........".

    I was invited today - I signed up.

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    Signed up
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    Just signed.

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    Just noticed this in the recent e-newsletter from Canoe England:

    Statement on New "River Access For All" Campaign

    This new campaign is not to be confused with the one being run by Canoe England. The Canoe England campaign is www.riversaccess.org which is calling for clarity and certainty of access to and along all waterways taking environmental matters into consideration, through new primary legislation or the restoration/recognition of historic rights. This is for non powered craft, which includes swimmers etc, as we recognise that not all waterways are suitable for powered craft.

    Canoe England welcomes any responsible initiative that promotes greater access to and along rivers. We look forward to a constructive dialogue with the new organisation.

    Please direct further comments and questions to access@canoe-england.org.uk

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    Default Paul Heiney supports River Access For All

    The latest supporter of River Access For All is Paul Heiney, presenter of Countrywise on ITV, and a canoeist'. See his piece in the news section here
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    Is this the first celeb to join in the cause? ( I wish Anglia telly still produced good tv like secret rivers and Victorian farm)
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    Stuck for Christmas present ideas?
    You can now buy T-shirts and hoodies for your loved ones from the River Access For All shop.

    Get your orders in by 14th December if you want Santa to deliver!

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    This comment about powered craft is bit odd. River Access For All is not advocating access by powered craft.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fran View Post
    Just noticed this in the recent e-newsletter from Canoe England:

    Statement on New "River Access For All" Campaign

    This new campaign is not to be confused with the one being run by Canoe England. The Canoe England campaign is www.riversaccess.org which is calling for clarity and certainty of access to and along all waterways taking environmental matters into consideration, through new primary legislation or the restoration/recognition of historic rights. This is for non powered craft, which includes swimmers etc, as we recognise that not all waterways are suitable for powered craft.

    Canoe England welcomes any responsible initiative that promotes greater access to and along rivers. We look forward to a constructive dialogue with the new organisation.
    Please direct further comments and questions to access@canoe-england.org.uk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Wood View Post
    Stuck for Christmas present ideas?
    You can now buy T-shirts and hoodies for your loved ones from the River Access For All shop.

    Get your orders in by 14th December if you want Santa to deliver!
    Signed up a while back.

    Can I just say, I like the logo!

    Who designed it?

    Well done guys, excellent work - the site looks really professional and I like the clear and coherent way you're putting the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crow View Post

    Can I just say, I like the logo!

    Who designed it?
    The logo style was kicked around by committee, with Quicky having to suffer all the changes to his designs.
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    So all credit to Andy for putting up with our criticisms and developing the artwork.

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    Yes, Andy's work is superb
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    Joined a minute ago.
    Nice one.
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    Yea great idea, great Logo.!!!!! Wouldn't a logo of someone 'pi===g into the wind' have been more appropriate though???

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    I guess you would like to be that someone.
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    [QUOTE=Ratty;451763]I guess you would like to be that someone.[/

    Err No actually. I find its easier and far less messy with the wind behind -don't you???

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    I just avoid going canoeing or fishing on days that wind is likely to be a major issue.
    So it doesn't matter which way i stand, on bad days ill be inside with access to a urinal.

    Sorry that you have tio worry about such things. waterproofs may help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratty View Post
    I just avoid going canoeing or fishing on days that wind is likely to be a major issue.
    So it doesn't matter which way i stand, on bad days ill be inside with access to a urinal.

    Sorry that you have tio worry about such things. waterproofs may help.
    Merry Xmas
    Oh dear how sad!!!! Not been able to get out much lately then.
    Have an unwanted jigsaw if it will keep you occupied.

    Happy New Year -though I suspect the same old arguements, hand wringing and general whingeing will prevail with exactly the same result!!!!

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    Same old arguments, hand-wringing and general whingeing maybe; but not the same result. Think tipping-point.

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