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    Very impressed with the fire box! It arrived yesterday. I assembled it... It's on the kitchen floor, ready for duty. Not very PC, but I really want to burn something...
    Thanks, Jon!

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    I would suggest not doing it in the kitchen, the earache from the missus would be hell!
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    Yey ... mine arrived a couple of hours ago ... it's all assembled on the bedroom floor, well ... it was raining outside at the time.

    Excellent, even I can put it together in no time at all

    Now ... what have I got in here that'll burn?

    Only joking ... that's an outside job.
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    I currently have 1 firebox with top plate and 1 without in stock.

    I'll be getting another few made up soon as I also have to make up a smaller custom one for someone nearby, as soon as i've sorted out the exact size he wants and got the drawings done i'll post some pics of the smaller design.


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    Er.....even though I'm still breaking in the last one, I'd deffo be interested in a smaller design!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jondavy View Post
    I currently have 1 firebox with top plate and 1 without in stock.

    I'll be getting another few made up soon as I also have to make up a smaller custom one for someone nearby, as soon as i've sorted out the exact size he wants and got the drawings done i'll post some pics of the smaller design.




    Jon.
    could be interested in a smaller one if it was small enough for back packing jon especially if it was possible to use a trangia burner in it as well as wood!

    REALLY impressed with the large one with top plate !

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    Jon,
    I got back from Borneo this week and was met by this behind the door! Works very well as a door jam by the way!!!
    its a cracking bit of kit! Looking Forward to using it on a trip in November.

    Many thanks buddy
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    Hi jondavy,are there any 1.5mm with lids left, if so I will have one.
    Can you advise of the availability.
    Many thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladerunner View Post
    Hi jondavy,are there any 1.5mm with lids left, if so I will have one.
    Can you advise of the availability.
    Many thanks
    Martin
    PM on it's way.


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    jon,
    superfast delivery as mine came today, built it up in living room this evening looks superb and expect it to last lifetime.
    Wife gave me funny look when I asked her if the carpet was flame proof-lol.
    Cheers
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    Jon,
    I took my firebox on a Scout camp at the weekend ... it proved to be an essential bit of kit ... even before it was christened as a firebox. The double gas burner was taking ages to heat up anything at all, my Primus worked far better, at least until we used the side & end plates of my firebox to form windbreaks around the gas burners and we could then cook food in quantity as we'd intended .
    It's an excellent firebox too.
    So ... a superb flat pack, multi-use, piece of kit.
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    Default New smaller design?

    I've finally got round to looking at the new smaller firebox. I want to keep the design the same as much as is possible so i've just shortened it.

    This is the standard firebox 374 x 220 x 160mm currently available in 1.5mm stainless,


    And this is the proposed smaller design, 220 x 220 x 160mm,


    Both the above diagrams are shown with the optional top plates.

    If I make the smaller one in 1.5mm stainless then some of the parts are interchangeable with the larger one, however to get the weight down I can do it in 1.2mm stainless.

    At this stage the size may still change but I should have prices in early next week for it as shown above.


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    I like it
    But would I want to run 2 fireboxes at the same time ... probably not ... or would I ... I could put on an extra pan
    Jon ... How about also doing a cut-down kit for existing owners?
    Just the side plates, base plates and the optional top plate ... then we've the option of going large or small

    Would that work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potty Paddler View Post
    How about also doing a cut-down kit for existing owners?
    Just the side plates, base plates and the optional top plate ... then we've the option of going large or small
    If I make them in 1.5mm stainless than that's exactly how it would work, you just need the add on kit (base & side plates) and you have the option of large or small. I'm happy to make them in both 1.5 and 1.2mm but if you mix the two then some of the joints would be quite sloppy or very tight.

    Any other thoughts on this as i'm awaiting prices early next week and will hopefully be ordering a new batch of large and small fireboxes later next week. If anyone has any specific requirements then speak up as custom sizes can be done as well.


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    Jon,


    I drafted a response earlier to echo Pottys sentiments but then thought Id only be saving on ends plates!! So it hit the trash bin.

    Think I'd be happy to have two spare and buy a full set for the smaller version.

    As it happens the one I have is quite warped / twisted and doesn't sit on a flat surface so a few spares wouldn't do any harm!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead59 View Post
    As it happens the one I have is quite warped / twisted and doesn't sit on a flat surface so a few spares wouldn't do any harm!!
    It's usually just the fire plate (the bottom one with the slots in) that causes issues if it gets really warped, have you tried straitening it out? bending it gently a bit at a time over the edge of a table (no not the dining room one!) usually works.


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    Hi Jon,

    I haven't tried straightening it but, it appears to be one of the side plates: proper twisted!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead59 View Post
    Hi Jon,
    I haven't tried straightening it but, it appears to be one of the side plates: proper twisted!!
    I'd see if it'll straighten or twist back with a bit of force, can you PM a pic?


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    How much will the smaller one be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squidwurf View Post
    How much will the smaller one be?
    Should have prices by midweek, waiting for the laser cutters to quote at the moment. As soon as i've got prices i'll post them up on this thread.


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    Cheers.

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    Just chased up the laser cutters for pricing, should hopefully have prices on here tomorrow or over the weekend.


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    Did me proud this weekend Jon!

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    Prices for the new smaller firebox.

    The new small fireboxes will measure 220 x 220 x 160mm and will be made from 1.2mm stainless steel.


    Small firebox in 1.2mm stainless steel.................44.00 + postage = 52.00
    Small firebox in 1.2mm stainless with top plate....57.00 + postage = 65.00

    Large firebox in 1.5mm stainless steel.................53.00 + postage = 61.00
    Large firebox in 1.5mm stainless with top plate....67.00 + postage = 75.00

    For existing large firebox owners wanting to convert to a smaller one I will be doing conversion kit made from 1.5mm stainless (this would allow you to build either a large or small but not both together), I will get the prices for the kit worked out later this week.

    I will be ordering an initial batch of 5 or 6 later this week and should have them ready for dispatch for the end of the month.

    Please PM me for payment details.


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    Hello Jon

    do you have any 1.5mm models with top plate available ?

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    Hello Jon

    do you have any 1.5mm models with top plate available and price please. Am based in the uk i can send money via paypale if required

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    Hi i'v sent u money via bank transfer and pm u my address look 4ward to tring it out cheers Andy

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    I will be collecting the new fireboxes from the laser cutters on Tuesday so they will be ready to send out on Wednesday or Thursday.

    As soon as I get them i'll put up some photo's of the new smaller fireboxes.


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    Hi,

    After a very long delay (Not Jon's issue, was mine because I live in Jordan and had it delivered to a mate in UK), I have picked up the box, brought it to Jordan and set it up for the first time.

    I have to say I liked the fit and finish. everything was nicely cut, well made and fitted nicely. I bought the top plate as well and like the size.

    It will take a large Kelly kettle at one end and I can get one or two pans the other end at the same time.

    Don't like the bag it came in (open at one end and things can fall out easily) and can see the need for a nice fold over type bag similar to the offering from Jeff Randal, maybe as an option, if price is a consideration.

    So far I have only burnt some paper in it, so can't really comment on its performance.

    But what it has done is provide me with a larger version Firebox, which is what I wanted, well made and at a reasonable price.

    many thanks Jon, I am sure it will give long and faithful service.

    regards.

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    Hi Jon,
    I'd love to have a large, and possibly a conversion kit depending on cost. My cheapo folding BBQ has finally given up the ghost and your box looks much much better than it ever did.
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    Hi, I don't suppose you ship to the mainland, do you?
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    mainland..........tsh tsh
    Now we're paddling..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by scibi View Post
    Hi, I don't suppose you ship to the mainland, do you?
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    I'll have to check out the postage costs but can't see a problem.

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    Well, if you have one ieft with a top plate, 1,5mm thickness, the big version, just let me know how much shipping would be!

    Ben
    Last edited by scibi; 8th-December-2012 at 08:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scibi View Post
    Well, if you have one ieft with a top plate, 1,5mm thickness, the big version, just let me know how much shipping would be!
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    The new small fireboxes are available now,

    Shown below is the standard large firebox with top plate next to a small firebox,


    Large firebox, custom firebox (I can make them any size) and small firebox with top plate




    I currently have in stock,
    1 x small firebox without top plate (1.2mm)
    4 x small fireboxes with top plates (1.2mm)
    1 x large firebox without top plate (1.5mm)

    I have another two of the large fireboxes with top plates which are due in on the 20th.


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    Price and dimensions for small firebox (and top plate ) ?

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    Having seen mine in action, one of our Scout leaders is very impressed and is interested in getting one - can you give me a delivered price for the large firebox (1.5mm) with top plate please.
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    Hi Jon,
    The fire boxes look great and I may want to order one around the end of January next year. Could you advise on the price of a large box and delivery charges to central Scotland please.

    thanks
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    I like the look of these but am intrigued by material choice. Apart from shiney (when new) factor is there any reason for use of stainless rather than a lower grade steel?

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    I'd suggest the reason for stainless construction is due to the reduced level of corrosion?

    Make these or any other similar stove from mild steel and they'll rot away in no time.

    There's nothing stopping them being made from mild steel of course but they would be a filthy rusting mess in fairly short order, trust me! I've made all sorts of experimental burners, forges and bits of barbeques from mild steel and they all look atrocious within days and are a pig to clean too.

    Put it this way;I might make and use a similar stove from mild steel myself, (though the time, effort and cost would be wasted given its shortened lifespan) but I definitely wouldn't buy this or any similar stove if it was made from mild steel.


    As they are, I'd say they're a definite improvement on the Yukon and possibly the best made and finished examples I've seen. I'd certainly buy one if I felt I needed another take down wood burner.

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    Sorry if i've been a bit slow to respond over the Christmas period, too much traveling around and not enough time spent on SotP.

    The small firebox measures 220 x 220 x 160mm and is made from 1.2mm stainless steel.
    Small firebox in 1.2mm stainless steel.................44.00 + postage = 52.00
    Small firebox in 1.2mm stainless with top plate....57.00 + postage = 65.00

    The large firebox measures 374 x 220 x 160mm and is made from 1.5mm stainless steel,
    Large firebox in 1.5mm stainless steel.................53.00 + postage = 61.00
    Large firebox in 1.5mm stainless with top plate....67.00 + postage = 75.00

    For existing large firebox owners wanting to convert to a smaller one there is conversion kit made from 1.5mm stainless (which allows you to build either a large or small but not both together), these are made to order at the moment and there is a wait of approx 2.5 weeks.
    Small firebox conversion kit in 1.5mm stainless (without top plate)....31.00 + postage = 37.00

    I currently have in stock,
    1 x small firebox without top plate (1.2mm)
    4 x small fireboxes with top plates (1.2mm)
    3 x large firebox with top plates (1.5mm)
    The fireboxes with top plates can be supplied without if required.

    Please PM me for payment details.



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    Hi Jon,

    Just to let you know I've pm'd you my details and the payment for the large firebox and top plate should be with you if the computer - me - bob has worked it's magic.

    Any problems please get in touch.

    Thanks
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    Hello.............I would love a large fire box with plate...not sure what it means to pm the money or how best to communicate with you and every one not to see it!!!

    Do let me know
    JOYJOY

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    Hi Jon,

    The firebox arrived on Friday, looks great and can't wait to try it out this week.

    thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JOYJOY View Post
    Hello.............I would love a large fire box with plate...not sure what it means to pm the money or how best to communicate with you and every one not to see it!!!
    Do let me know
    JOYJOY
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    Hi Jon,

    Are you still making the "1.5mm tops" for your large firebox, if yes, thats the admage and postage?
    Simms ..

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    Hi Jon,
    i would like a 1.5 mm with lid. What sort of timescale for next batch? A large one please.
    Last edited by Robson white; 19th-January-2013 at 07:37 AM.

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    PM's sent to Simms and Robson white.

    I'm afraid that the couriers have increased their prices which will increase the postage by 1, i'm currently looking to see if I get this down again so hopefully this is just a temporary increase.

    The small firebox measures 220 x 220 x 160mm and is made from 1.2mm stainless steel.
    Small firebox in 1.2mm stainless steel.................44.00 + postage = 53.00
    Small firebox in 1.2mm stainless with top plate....57.00 + postage = 66.00

    The large firebox measures 374 x 220 x 160mm and is made from 1.5mm stainless steel,
    Large firebox in 1.5mm stainless steel.................53.00 + postage = 62.00
    Large firebox in 1.5mm stainless with top plate....67.00 + postage = 76.00

    For existing large firebox owners wanting to convert to a smaller one there is conversion kit made from 1.5mm stainless (which allows you to build either a large or small but not both together), these are made to order at the moment and there is a wait of approx 2.5 weeks.
    Small firebox conversion kit in 1.5mm stainless (without top plate)....31.00 + postage = 37.00

    I will be ordering some more large fireboxes and top plates on Monday and they should be available from the 4th of Feb.
    I currently have in stock,
    4 x small fireboxes with top plates (1.2mm)
    The fireboxes with top plates can be supplied without if required.

    Please PM me for payment details.


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    Hi Jon,
    hopefully I have sent you a PM to order a large firebox with top plate.
    thanks
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    HI,
    I can feel one of your large fireboxes calling me...
    Will it be ok to use it without the cross pieces across the top, so it can be used as an open campfire putting wood on the top rather than in the side. Or do the cross pieces stop the sides from bowing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by happygoluckie View Post
    HI,
    I can feel one of your large fireboxes calling me...
    Will it be ok to use it without the cross pieces across the top, so it can be used as an open campfire putting wood on the top rather than in the side. Or do the cross pieces stop the sides from bowing?
    They are fine to use without the cross pieces as these are mainly to support pans, if you do get any bowing the sides are easily straightened out.

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    Jon, I just tried to PM you but apparently your inbox is not accepting new messages until some old ones are cleared out. I wanted to ask whether you had a large firebox with top plate in stock? Cheers, Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisS View Post
    Jon, I just tried to PM you but apparently your inbox is not accepting new messages until some old ones are cleared out. I wanted to ask whether you had a large firebox with top plate in stock? Cheers, Chris
    Inbox now cleared.

    Chris i've sent you a PM.


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    Latest batch of fireboxes are in stock now.

    I have 6 large fireboxes available with or without top plates and 4 small fireboxes again with or without top plates.

    The small firebox measures 220 x 220 x 160mm and is made from 1.2mm stainless steel.
    Small firebox in 1.2mm stainless steel.................44.00 + postage = 53.00
    Small firebox in 1.2mm stainless with top plate....57.00 + postage = 66.00

    The large firebox measures 374 x 220 x 160mm and is made from 1.5mm stainless steel,
    Large firebox in 1.5mm stainless steel.................53.00 + postage = 62.00
    Large firebox in 1.5mm stainless with top plate....67.00 + postage = 76.00

    Please PM me for details

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    New firebox had its first use yesterday on the river Idle. Very pleased with it and very quick and easy to start cooking. Thanks Jon.

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    as i dont have a kelly kettle and am unlikely to get one, are there any advantages from having a top plate?
    i was thinking, retaining more heat slower burn when cooking, or would it increase burn rate with hole acting as a chimney?
    saves pan blackening?
    gives more even heat?
    obvious one is preventing sparks from flying but would remove visual aspect of 'fire' that we all love
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    Quote Originally Posted by andym View Post
    as i dont have a kelly kettle and am unlikely to get one, are there any advantages from having a top plate?
    i was thinking, retaining more heat slower burn when cooking, or would it increase burn rate with hole acting as a chimney?
    saves pan blackening?
    gives more even heat?
    obvious one is preventing sparks from flying but would remove visual aspect of 'fire' that we all love
    thoughts from users please
    guess who has a birthday coming up!
    Bit less soot on pots and a bit more control when cooking, we usually have our 5L trangia billy partially covering the hole when 'simmering' and shuffle it about to suit.
    It only works more efficiently with a KK acting as a chimney, without it seems to slow the burn rate and reduces the radiated heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy 90 View Post
    Bit less soot on pots and a bit more control when cooking, we usually have our 5L trangia billy partially covering the hole when 'simmering' and shuffle it about to suit.
    It only works more efficiently with a KK acting as a chimney, without it seems to slow the burn rate and reduces the radiated heat.
    Agreed. I leave the plate on when cooking, but take it off for fire-gazing and heat.
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    Hi Jon - and everyone
    I've been about to write you a line for a while now; I've just found two seconds...
    I've just want to thank you for the firebox. I've used it on several occasions now and it's top notch. Really nice, neat and super practical. I would recommend it without hesitation.
    The only thing I'd change is I'd do some little cuts on the side of the top plate, so that it slots into place if the cross sections are on - it may so happen that you start with them on and then want to put the top plate on; at that time, the cross sections are hot, so taking them out is not very practical and if left on the top plate can be less stable. Having said that (which is a very minor thing), the firebox is superb!
    Hope this helps - and please let me know about any new things you're making.
    Pancho

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