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Thread: Ally 17' DR

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    Default Ally 17' DR

    Maker's Spec

    Length: 515 cm / 16' 11''
    Width: 90 cm / 35,5''
    Width gunwale: 85 cm / 33.5''
    Width waterline: 82,5 cm / 32.5''
    Depth: 34 cm / 13.5''
    Height bow: 45 cm / 17.5''
    Weight: 20,5 kg / 45 lbs
    Capacity: 390 kg / 860 lbs

    Maker's Write Up
    ALLY 17 is a high performance fast canoe that very well matches up to the fastest fibreglass or kevlar canoes. The tumblehome bottom profile and straight keel line makes it track straighter in the waves providing excellent side stability. The low profile and the straight bow and stern makes it difficult for the wind to get hold of the canoe. The result is superior directional stability under severe conditions. The ALLY 17 is mainly an excellent canoe for plain water, meeting all the requirements set for canoes for these conditions. However, due to its high load capacity, it is also well suited for long trips and expeditions in areas without white water It may be used comfortably by up to 3 people with baggage, but it can also be paddled solo.

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    We've owned our Ally for three years, and frankly - we feel spoiled. We thought we'd be settling for something less - we only purchased a folder because we had no room on the truck camper for a boat, so we carry the Ally packed in the back seat of our truck. But once we got it into the water, it was like heaven. It has excellent secondary stability, and glides easily over the water. It's nimble and maneuverable for a craft it's size. There's a learning curve to it's assembly, but once you figure out a few tricks it's easy. Lightweight, it's easy to port around. 850 lb cargo capacity, including passengers. The wind still plays havoc with it on a windy day - no way around it. But it tracks very well. Our one complaint is the molded seats. Even with padding, it gets to one's butt. The seats tilt and offer nice support if you kneel. But comfortable they ain't, and the old cane style seats are no longer available. So, expect to need some padding on the seats - if you haven't some already. In comparison, we have since purchased some OT solo canoes, put them in the water, and were disappointed. They are fine for what they are, but compared to the Ally...

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    I'm wondering how the Ally 17 compares to the Ally 16.5 on flatwater. Does anyone have any experience with these two boats? I know the Ally 17 is designed to work better on flatwater, with no rocker, but I wonder how much of a difference there really is in practice.

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    A few years ago we bought an Ally 17 DR as an addition to our Swift Dumoin. We wanted a folding canoe so we could transport it in the trunk of the car (and leave it there overnight without being afraid of getting it stolen) but we were also looking for a canoe that would track better (less rocker and more length). On paper the 17DR ticks both boxes so instead of buying a hard shell canoe with good tracking AND a folding canoe we bought a long folding canoe with good tracking.

    We have used the Ally a few times since in different conditions and are over all pleased with it... but...
    There are a few things that we'll now consider if we want to decide if the Ally is the right boat for a trip:
    - yes, it tracks well (if carrying a load, see next point), but being rather flexible it isn't as fast as a similar hard shell canoe would be. Some energy is absorbed by the flexing of the hull (both the ribs and the skin).
    - this canoe is best used with a considerable amount of load (camping gear and food/water for a few days):
    - being very light it sits high on the water and doesn't really cut into the water. As a result it doesn't really track all that well unladen, plus: being rather deep it is very sensitive to wind.
    - the paddling stations are rather close to the center of the canoe and as a result they are quite wide. Having the seats closer to the ends of the canoe would make the paddling stations narrower (and thus more efficient) and allows for more control over the canoe in windy conditions.

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