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    Default Scottish Spate rivers

    Everything locally is out of it's banks. The weekend is a few days away but it is unlikely that the water levels will have dropped back to normal by then.

    Anybody got any ideas for a suitable river? Maybe something that needs high water but is not too suicidal for open canoe (a bit suicidal might be okay!)

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    If it does not stop raining tonight I will be paddling from the island nation of Lochwinnoch tomorrow as there is currently only one road open to here and that is only currently passable by 4 x 4s or lorries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tenboats1 View Post
    Anybody got any ideas for a suitable river? Maybe something that needs high water but is not too suicidal for open canoe (a bit suicidal might be okay!)
    We're thinking about an 'explore' on the upper upper upper Tweed on Sunday, though it's out Kayak Club Christmas Dinner on Saturday so an early start may be a problem.
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    The Carnock Burn in Finnich Glen has been catching my eye in the last couple of weeks. Not white water, more like a poling trip. Only seen it from the B834 in passing a couple of times.
    Picture yourself in a boat on a river,

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    Highest I've seen the Leven in over 30 years, over the banks in places I never believed possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenboats1 View Post
    Anybody got any ideas for a suitable river? Maybe something that needs high water but is not too suicidal for open canoe (a bit suicidal might be okay!)

    Anybody want to join us?
    How about he Whitadder in the Borders? It needs loads of water to paddle decently and is a good paddle for a short bike ride as the river bends & has a good eating place to stop at Abbey St Bathans next to the ford (+ a broch).

    It has one grade 4 - short & easy to portage plus one grade 3 (shown below) - short and a bit more awkward, but not too bad to get round.



    The rest is grade 1, occasional grade 2 but a bonny river.

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    This sounds ideal, I'll run it past Mad River Ralph and Ocoee Danny. Danny is paddling kayak on the Saturday so we are looking at Sunday.

    Could be by Sunday the water levels will be too low? Is there an alternative close by?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tenboats1 View Post
    This sounds ideal, I'll run it past Mad River Ralph and Ocoee Danny. Danny is paddling kayak on the Saturday so we are looking at Sunday.

    Could be by Sunday the water levels will be too low? Is there an alternative close by?
    River Esk from Penicuick down, River Tyne from Haddington down.

    I've put descriptions on UK rivers guidebook

    http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk/esknorth.htm

    http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk/esksouth.htm

    http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk/tyne_scot.htm

    Can't join you - I've messed up my knee & got a band practise, have fun & stay safe.

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    Been on the Edinburgh Avon today. The level was just right in that there wasn't the usual bump and scrape.

    There was a big party of kayakers on the water too, first time we have had company on this river. Ocoee Danny ran that nasty wier again just to test his skid plates.

    Somebody whispered 'Nith Gorge' in my ear so that's where we are heading tomorrow. Maybe this time I'll finish it without a boat pin and haul out in darkness
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    Well, the Nith return was very eventful, but didn't end in hauling boats out of the gorge in the dark. It was over 3.5 on the gauge at the start, dropping a little throughout the day.

    It was top end for trad open boats and we got pretty wet at times. I'll blogg it if I can get photo bucket to work.

    (I think I need a new canoe: the Supernova swamped badly even when taking the 'dry' line )
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    Doesn't sound like the Supernova gets on that well with the Nith .

    Be good to see the photos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvergirl View Post
    Doesn't sound like the Supernova gets on that well with the Nith .

    Be good to see the photos.

    Sort of. Depends on what we mean by not getting on well. I didn't swim thanks to that superb secondary stability when swamped, but I did get a wet ride. Some of this was down to paddler error not quite making the best line, but in the main it was the volume of water. The holes were seriously big. The paddler of the Impulse swam 5 times, only the Ocoee went clean. I did most of the crux section backwards but stayed upright thanks to a deliberate and desperate boof (?) onto a rock which held me in place long enough to get sorted out.

    I think a spray skirt is in order if I'm to paddle any more of the big stuff
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    Did you have air bags ?
    I suppose if you go slow then water over the gunnels ?

    Nick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scots_Charles_River View Post
    Did you have air bags ?
    You've obviously not met Tony
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scots_Charles_River View Post
    Did you have air bags ?
    I suppose if you go slow then water over the gunnels ?

    Nick

    2 x 60" in a 14'10" canoe. Do your own math. Plus 20 litre dry bag strapped down to the bottom of the boat which displaces water.

    Going slow helps to minimise shipped water over the gunwales, but it is harder to get directional control at times when slow. Slow is relative when on Gd3/4 volume water!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiKelly View Post
    You've obviously not met Tony
    Air bags indeed Scots Charles River .

    Tenboats you posted just as I was about to get my tuppence worth in.

    Tenboats in Magikelly's canoe =

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