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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripvanwinkle View Post
    Apache 16 plus a lot of kit on my Landy on a recent trip to Brittany


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    Can you get the bike in the canoe to help with shuttles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal Grey View Post
    Can you get the bike in the canoe to help with shuttles?
    I'd give most things ago but I'll pass on the motorbike


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    https://youtu.be/bFhnt3JUuL8


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    NovaCraft Prospector 16 on top of a Hyundai I30.


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    Default Wenonah Prospector Sandwich



    Three 16ft Wenonah Prospectors loaded on a defender
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    I'll be putting my canoe on the car soon for the first time!

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    12 foot Selway Fisher Ranger on a Dacia Duster.
    Can be set up like this with no overhang but should really move it back a foot so the roofbars are more central.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hemlock View Post
    12 foot Selway Fisher Ranger on a Dacia Duster.
    Can be set up like this with no overhang but should really move it back a foot so the roofbars are more central.

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    You've gone Romanian aswell then??
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaldMan Jump View Post
    You've gone Romanian aswell then??
    Had to be done.
    Looks totally gangsta with the privacy glass 😈

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    Orca Lakelander on a Smart car en route from Penrith to South London!! I said to him, avoid speed ramps!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaldMan Jump View Post
    You've gone Romanian aswell then??
    Have you checked he hasn't nicked yours? You being in foreign parts and all that...
    Covering as many malmiles as possible before being distracted by the pub!

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    Got a bigger car now but the Venture Hunter still overhangs quite a bit


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    how do you put an image on here? i can never seem to manage it....thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chameleon View Post
    how do you put an image on here? i can never seem to manage it....thanks
    Well you used to do it using photobucket to "host" your image (turns out it was more like your image was "held hostage") after first re-sizing and uploading the edited image to photobucket but now you can either find another third party hosting site like flickr etc ( and wait for them to do exactly what photobucket did) or else pay for a subscription to this site (5) and you can paste your images straight onto the forum.

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    thank you kind sir.

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    I think it is a pity, that non of the modern car designs offers the option to have that much spread of the two racks (see next post).
    This is a much saver way of transportation compared to racks that are only one meter apart.

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    Not my car, not my canoe.


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    Unhappy

    I too mourn the passing of the 700/900 series Volvos with real gutters.
    The V70s are ok , just not as good at load lugging!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flo-mo View Post
    Not my car, not my canoe.

    I have an alternative but less elegant way of transporting bikes and canoe.

    Cykell towball rack

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    Default Venture Prospector 155 on Ford S-Max

    The roof bars are on fixed anchor points, these are only about 80cm apart therefore the boat is always anchored front and back. There are some anchor points in the boot space and I pass the tape under the tailgate. At the front I use the towing eye, this is off centre. This picture is an early version, the front and back lines are fastened to the front and back of the gunwale. These days I pass the straps through the grab loops. Interestingly the drop off I have in fuel economy when I drive with the Thule square roof bars fitted (not Aerobars) doesn't seem to get much worse with the boat on. Probably something to do with a nice aero/hydrodynamic shape.
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    Shiny!

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    Been offered a Ford Edge here in Canada. Anyone any experience of putting a canoe on top of one of these please?

    Bars seem a bit close together....
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    Two Swift Keewaydin 17 canoes on Toyota RAV4, attached via Algonquin Outfitters rental rack (for more detail see blog)



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    Grizzle, Have a look at my post from the 16th Sept. Ford S-Max. This is about 1 1/2 inches lower than the Ford Edge. I haven't been able to find out what the spacing is for roofbars are on the Edge. The S-Max has fixed anchor points in the roof rail about 75-80 cm apart. Which feels quite close, as can be seen with the straps, hence tie downs front and rear.
    It feels pretty stable at 65-70 mph but I haven't driven in a serious cross wind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzle View Post
    Been offered a Ford Edge here in Canada. Anyone any experience of putting a canoe on top of one of these please?

    Bars seem a bit close together....
    Does it already have bars on it ?
    I ask because my Hyundai has the same type of low level roof rails that the Edge appears to have (the UK version at least), which have locating holes for the roof bar feet to fit into,
    However, I bought Thule bars (rather than Hyundais own) and feet to fit my car and the feet don't have the small lugs that fit into the locating holes, which allows me to space the feet and bars as far apart as the rails will allow. Ideal for carrying canoes .

    As for getting your canoe on top, the Edge is obviously somewhat higher than your Merc, so getting a canoe up there will be more difficult/awkward and you ain't getting any younger .
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    Ah! It has a Sun roof and the dealership here tells me that the roof just isn't strong enough to take rails or horizontal bars....

    Comments please?
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    Two canoes on roof rails will not tax its capabilities one bit.
    Never heard such rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzle View Post
    Ah! It has a Sun roof and the dealership here tells me that the roof just isn't strong enough to take rails or horizontal bars....

    Comments please?
    Makes sense, find another vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moomoo View Post
    Two canoes on roof rails will not tax its capabilities one bit.
    Never heard such rubbish.
    It isn't rubbish at all, and your comment could be very misleading for the uninitiated.
    All car roofs and all roof rails and bars have a weight limit. Some canoes are very heavy, and two of them could severely tax those weight limits.
    Apart from the weight of the canoes, don't forget the amount of uplift generated on canoes on a car roof, especially when travelling at speed. The equation isn't all about canoe weights, it's about total force generated onto the car roof when transporting items on it.
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    The Ford info on the Edge in the UK shows it fitted with a roof rack. The rails look very similar to those on my Focus (which has carried two Royalex canoes without issue) but they may only be cosmetically similar. Does the one you've been offered have rails, and a sunroof in between, or just a glass roof?

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    Hi,

    It has just a glass roof - but plastic longitudinal inlays as if there could be fixings beneath...

    Hmmmm
    G

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    Nope, I'm with the dealer then - not suitable. Sorry!

    It beats me how anyone can market a vehicle with 'Utility' in the type that can't take a roof rack - especially in Canada. I suspect it's designed for a country a little to the South.

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    Thanks to all - very helpful.
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    The Edge that's sold here in the Uk have two specs with roof rails fitted, the flush type, not the raised ones. These are fine for canoes.
    Is there not the same option in Canada ? If so, why not go for one of those rather than one with a glass roof which are often problematic anyway i.e. leakages, breakages and lack of stiffness compared to a metal roof ?

    They get good reviews here, be a shame to pass on it for the sake of a glass roof.
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