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    Default Hello from Hedgepig

    This is a new experiance for me this forum fing, so guess i should start by saying Hi!
    After many years away from the paddle have decided to return (should i say finaces now allow me?) for a proper go. As you guys seem to know what's what's this looks to be a good place to start.
    First step is buy me a new boat.
    So here's a question: Has anyone tried the new Venture Ontario?
    My first choice is for a Venture Ranger 14, but the Ontario looks interesting. Can anyone give me a professional opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgepig View Post
    So here's a question: Has anyone tried the new Venture Ontario?
    My first choice is for a Venture Ranger 14
    Hi Hedgepig

    Not a professional opinion, however having used a canoe made of plastic and now one made of Royalex. If finances allow, I would strongly recommend you purchase a canoe made with Royalex.

    Cheers

    Sprout

    NB. Nice to have another paddler in the SE...... so welcome

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    Welcome aboard.

    I can't comment on the two canoes but would back Sprout's opinion that given the choice of plastic or royalex, go for the royalex. The plastic is generally great and takes a heck of a beating but there will be times when the weight will be an issue. On those occasions you will be glad you went the royalex route.

    Of course if finances allow, there is always Kevlar
    John

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    Default Venture Ranger

    The Venture Ranger 14 is made of Corelite.

    The advertising blurb claims that this
    'is the latest generation material for this type of construction. It is stiff and resilient and can save about 6kg when compared to more traditional materials.'

    Having been a long-term user of Old Town 'Discos' (the Discovery Scout is no longer available except in its Royalex crazy price version) I was persuaded to pick up four Ranger 14s to use for a younger age group, both solo and tandem.
    So far I have been pretty impressed. They are for 'Touring on lakes, canals, rivers and estuaries', but the recent posting by Saarlak on his trip down the River Tweed in serious whitewater looks very promising:
    http://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/for...ead.php?t=1403

    See also the reviews on the Venture Ranger 14 elsewhere: go through 'Search' on SotP.
    Last edited by Bembe; 19th-August-2006 at 05:33 PM. Reason: Link

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    Thanks for the replies.
    Royalex would definately be nice as far as weight goes, but have heard some good reviews on the Ranger 14. Then again did someone say Novacraft, mmmmm these look vely nice!
    Is there any canoe centre, or shop in the SE that would welcome a solo paddler to try a few different canoes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgepig View Post
    Thanks for the replies.
    Royalex would definately be nice as far as weight goes, but have heard some good reviews on the Ranger 14. Then again did someone say Novacraft, mmmmm these look vely nice!
    Is there any canoe centre, or shop in the SE that would welcome a solo paddler to try a few different canoes?

    Try:

    http://www.whitewaterthecanoecentre....pencanoes.html

    or

    http://www.marsport.co.uk/main%20sit...ite%20home.htm

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    Thanx Sprout

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    i looked at the ontario and it seemed a good price for a good boat
    however when i saw one it had a lot lower sides( freeboard is the correct phrase i think) it looked good for flat water, but wasnt what i was looking for as i wanted to progress to lower grade ww. where the ontario may be a wetter ride. this might also apply to windy conditions on lakes.
    having said that it looked good for flat water,slow rivers and canals and calm lake days. but as i have not tried one this is only an observation
    i'm sure the more experienced paddlers out there will offer their opnion
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    Default Ontario

    Hi,
    The Ontario is a lovely looking wee boat....
    If I am remebering correctly it is the Canoe I was advised was suited to smaller solo tripping paddlers, or for kids doules up!
    It is made of corelite and that does save a lot of weight... 6kg lighter than a 15ft royalex novacraft!!.... I used to have a 15ft novacraft and it was a heavy canoe although paddled well, but in the end, the weight (among other things) sold me to We-no-nah.
    Not only does the corelite save weight... it is a royalex weight at plastic prices, so if budget is an issue, I'd say well worth a look.
    Also in respect to the Ranger 14 also in corelite, the ontario is all of 2cms longer, but suggests 30kgs more capacity!
    The design if I remember correctly being told is almost that of a smaller Prospector.
    I do remember seeing it on the lake at the last symposium with a woman and teenager in it, it handled well and looked good on the water although I didn't paddle it, but its a nice looking canoe!
    If you want to compare canoes a very good resourse for all paddling kit is the Brookbank canoes catalogue... it lists in full colour with specs, etc on a wide range of canoes and equipment, their website too does this.... www.brookbankcanoes.co.uk they als have a shop in Warwickshire but I havent looked at the website yet.... www.paddlesport.co.uk
    Also if time and cash can afford it the canoe symposiums are a good place to try canoes, but this year is in Scotland... maybe too far to travel?! www.canoesymposium.co.uk
    Hope all this helps.....
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    Hi, and welcome afloat,

    Just wanted to point out that the Tweed trip mentioned above is a little over rated as "serious" white water at the level it was at (the tweed does get reasonably serious, just not at that level). It's not a begginers solo trip, but I did bump into an exworkmate taking a group of beginners down it.

    Having said that, I have no problem recommending the ranger 14 as a beginners boat. It's a good all rounder and will serve well while you develope your skills. You may find in the future that you want a more specialist boat if you're only paddling flat water, or just doing day trips on WW, but the ranger will handle well enough while you discover which area of open boating appeals to you at a price that can't really be argued with. Like I said in the mini review, it will handle everything I did on a 5* training course, so you won't out grow it too quickly.

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    Hi ya. Sitting in an office jsut down the river in Kingston. Fairly sure that Whitewater over at Shepperton Marina has an ontario as a demo boat. If it is the same one, it felt quite nice when paddled on their lake. Probably better suited to smaller rather than larger paddler.

    Rich

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    Thank you all for the replies. As i suspected with the Ontario it is for the little people, looks like i may have to head down to Shepperton or Marlows for a test drive.

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    Default Update on Ranger 14

    The report back from a whitewater trip on the River Eden is that they performed really well.
    I took a couple of the Ranger 14s out tonight, for a farewell spin with my son who is leaving on Monday for a year in New York as a student. We paddled across the West India Docks, past Canary Wharf, to the City Pride PH. He had not been in a Ranger 14 before, and although he is over 6 foot and it looked to be a tight fit between seat and thwart, he was comfortable enough.
    Hardly a ripple on the water tonight, until after we had had a modest libation, and then the heavens opened on the way back.
    I am seriously impressed with these boats. Of course the Mobile Adventure heritage was always good, but they spin nicely when leaned, paddle against the arc, track very reasonably, and although probably not long enough for serious adults tripping long distances with piles of gear, they are quality boats!

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    Welcome aboard Hedgepig,

    Good to have anoer SE paddler on the payroll. I would just like to reiterate BEMBE in his analysis of the Ranger 14. Corelite plastic has made it a bit lighter and it performs well on the water.

    Happy paddling

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