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    ''Inappropriate''. Damning!

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    Shouldn't that be " Damming"
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    Looks like a glorious way to die.
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    I know it's probably highly dangerous and shouldn't be attempted, but I wish I the b***s to do it.

    It puts the theme park Log flume to shame.

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    You beauty!!.I mean, ooo naughty.....
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    Not I'm not for a minute suggesting I'd give it a go, and I seriously doubt the sanity of those who do, but paddlers have been playing on this for years. It featured on Shaun baker's ID2 video and I'm sure that upped it's popularity. Dunno why it's suddenly news.
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    I imagine the concrete flying past just inches under the boat would give a good incentive to stay upright!

    Thats quite some impressive air gained by that one boat!

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    Default Kayakers 300ft dam drop attacked

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7735242.stm

    Extreem kayakers have been condemed for canoeing down a dam in west Wales....

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    Impressive stuff!! but I'd be more impressed if they had poled up it in an open!
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    I think you would need two poles...
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    AWESOME
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    To be honest, my first thought was, WOW! I'd love to do that in my Packraft.

    It reminded me of the guy whom filmed himself ski'ing down the escalator at Islington tube station, it obviously reminded someone else too, as the video of his escalator escapade appears at the kayak vid's end!

    Which of us could look at that water and not want to run it? (Although the bit about concrete just below the surface is somewhat off putting!)

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    The clip was just on the BBC national news highlights. Apparently it's dangerous!! But, there again, so is diving.... and driving... and parachuting.... and playing rugby.... and eating too many deep fried Mars bars.... and (according to British Waterways) canoeing through tunnels.... and (according to the Health and Safety Executive) just about everything else that anybody ever does! But, following on from Lloyd's comment, if you have to spend your last few seconds on this mortal coil doing anything, what a way to shuffle off it! As Zero put it, if I only had the cajones!
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    woop woop i want a go !!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I want to try it.

    I just don't fancy hitting that wave at the bottom when still travelling at around 40mph.
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    Default Llyn Brianne

    So which one of you guys is responsible for this?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7735242.stm

    Reminds me of tobogganing.

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    holly f@~# ,

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    Looks fun, as lloyd says if you going to go you might as well make it spectacular.

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    Looks like fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeland Pete View Post
    Looks fun, as lloyd says if you going to go you might as well make it spectacular.

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    It could be spectacular after you've gone.

    A flaming coffin and gentle push to start.
    and a wake thrown in at the bottom.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockhopper View Post
    Apparently it's dangerous!! But, there again, so is diving.... and driving... and parachuting.... and playing rugby.... and eating too many deep fried Mars bars.... and (according to British Waterways) canoeing through tunnels.... and (according to the Health and Safety Executive) just about everything else that anybody ever does! But, following on from Lloyd's comment, if you have to spend your last few seconds on this mortal coil doing anything, what a way to shuffle off it!
    Sir, you ar soooo right.

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    Ok so who is going to organise the meet up to do this........

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    Not much opportunity for a brew stop on the way down.
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    Default Failure mode

    And the primary failure mode is a capsize that won't be a full capsize, you'll fall over onto your side and slide down with your arm/head acting as a friction break on the concretre surface.
    You'll get to experience what a block of cheese feels like when it's being grated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Not much opportunity for a brew stop on the way down.

    That's me out then
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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan View Post
    woop woop i want a go !!!!!!!!!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    Sir, you ar soooo right.

    No one ever lays on their death bed thinking " Damn, I wish I had spent more time at work!"
    Okay guys, we can start with a warm-up on Spelga Dam on Saturday then its onto the ferry to Wales..........................
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    I'm still up for it, if LP wants to trash one of the Colemans in style. I'm the bowman as per but LP, you can't step out before the weir.

    That first paddler got a nice amount of air, I suspect the third one did too.

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    Why is it that resevoir owners get themselves into such a twist about other people using their water? it's the same at bewl water resevoir in kent/sussex, unless you are a member of one of the few groups that they allow who pay them alot of money for access rights then they have big issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by aslan View Post
    Not much opportunity for a brew stop on the way down.
    Not much of a opportunity for a trip Blog either.
    Got in at the top -clenched buttocks - Got out at the bottom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zero View Post
    Not much of a opportunity for a trip Blog either.
    Got in at the top -clenched buttocks - Got out at the bottom.
    No photos
    The end

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    Thats where the support crew comes into play. They take the piccys and we can use those travel mugs they sell at petrol service stations for the brew on the way down.........kelly kettle at the top, fill the mugs and set off down drinking from the mugs. I mean, we all know open canoes are soooooo much more stable than KK's so we should not have too much trouble....... It would be the fastest trip in sotp history.......but what a blogg. Go tell me you would not read it

    i have been giving this too much thought

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    Just been on facebook and it turns out the lad in the yellow boat is someone i know.
    One of the comments to one of his photos said;

    "gramps is speechless and that takes some doing"!

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    Default Good luck to 'em.

    As Richard Harvey (WCA guy) pointed out, it's been an open secret for years that kayakers run the spillway. But nothing happens these days without somebody films it and sticks it on YouTube.

    Far as I know nobody has come too badly unstuck doing it. But falling out (or over) doesn't bear thinking about ...
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    there is a picture of a kayaker doing this in the welsh rivers guide book. I'm guessing by the clothes the people are wearing in the rest of the book suggests it was taken a while ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekij View Post
    And the primary failure mode is a capsize that won't be a full capsize, you'll fall over onto your side and slide down with your arm/head acting as a friction break on the concretre surface.
    You'll get to experience what a block of cheese feels like when it's being grated.
    Judging from what I have seen of the erosive power of water,I would imagine that there wouldnt be much sharp to grate.
    In fact surely it would be pretty smooth and shiny ,more like the rocks on a white water run,

    Or am I totally wrong???

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    Quote Originally Posted by firebreather View Post
    ...kelly kettle at the top, fill the mugs and set off down drinking from the mugs...
    Maybe a bit of Dutch courage beforehand but any thing more than that, you'd lose on the way down. And then you'd have a dirty boat, even if you cleaned the run.

    The words 'What a rush!' spring to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Andrews View Post
    What kayakers can do openboaters are not far behind!

    Get on with you Bob. You have been using photoshop. That spillway must be at least 400 foot long.

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    I have to say that I'm rather appalled by this what I've seen of this.

    ... after all, the sound quality is a bit iffy, and the editing cuts off what happened to the last boat down - I mean, what state is that to put a video out in?


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    Ok so who is going to organise the meet up to do this........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Al. View Post
    Okay guys, we can start with a warm-up on Spelga Dam on Saturday then its onto the ferry to Wales..........................

    Hmmmm..........sounds dangerous ....count me in!!
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    I suspect now it has had so much media attention Welsh Water will be clamping down hard on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tig View Post
    I suspect now it has had so much media attention Welsh Water will be clamping down hard on it
    Perhaps they will start charging for it.

    Can you imagine the problems for the guy that had to do the risk assessment

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    To be able to do what these guys did I would give an enormous amount!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zero View Post
    Perhaps they will start charging for it.

    Can you imagine the problems for the guy that had to do the risk assessment

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    Default kayaking crazy

    take a look at this guy kayaking down a dam


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ckle-ride.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tig View Post
    I suspect now it has had so much media attention Welsh Water will be clamping down hard on it
    Yep - until the fuss dies down. I suppose they may put other draconian preventative methods into force like CCTV. They'll get some good shots for you tube though if they do.

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    Hmm if they do that could the people get the videos back via the freedom on information act ? Just a thought

    I know a band did that on london underground, they basically performed the video infront of a cctv camera, requested the footage via a foi request and dubbed the music track back on and released it

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    There was an interesting discussion of this activity on Radio 4 on Sunday morning. Should have been compulsory listening for Welsh Water. They asked a mountaineer what he thought of it after climbing all 14 mountains over 8000 metres, without oxygen . He claimed he was not an expert at extreme sports; he knew what he was doing climbing those mountains and judged that kayakers going down the spillway would feel the same way!

    But I bet it won't stop killjoys at Welsh Water!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rigoletto View Post
    take a look at this guy kayaking down a dam


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ckle-ride.html

    can anyone tell me what the throw line was for in the camera man's hand "security blanket for him mabey but not much use to rescue any one on there lol

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    Default Suicide pact????

    Maybe the cameraman was supposed to hang himself with it if he missed the shot- let's face it he's not going to do a lot else with it is he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by firebreather View Post
    Ok so who is going to organise the meet up to do this........

    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamatrad View Post
    ...What a way for it to finish its days, far better than sitting on a garage roof or in a back garden covered in moss.
    Unless we could arrange some more straps and take the garage roof along for the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamatrad View Post
    The 'Bath Tub' is available for any soul who has a specific desire to 'open' this out.

    What a way for it to finish its days, far better than sitting on a garage roof or in a back garden covered in moss.


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    Quote Originally Posted by twopigs View Post
    There was an interesting discussion of this activity on Radio 4 on Sunday morning. Should have been compulsory listening for Welsh Water. They asked a mountaineer what he thought of it after climbing all 14 mountains over 8000 metres, without oxygen . He claimed he was not an expert at extreme sports; he knew what he was doing climbing those mountains and judged that kayakers going down the spillway would feel the same way!

    But I bet it won't stop killjoys at Welsh Water!

    Which show was it? I started to listen to BH and may have missed it. I hope it is on the listen again.

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    THe bottom doesnt appear to be rolling like the low dams here do. I saw a 16 foot fishing boat go over a dam and get sucked under for quite some time. The passengers jumped ship by going into another vessel as the boat wasnt under power at the time (which is why it went over to start with). After seeing that I had a greater found respect for dams and the general power of water itself. At another nearby dam I saw a tree go over, under for some time, then shoot back up almost completely out of the water. Theres no way I would have wanted to get sucked under the dam.

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    Awesome. Has anyone tried in a real canoe?

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